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John 16:29Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

His disciples say to him: Behold, now thou speakest plainly and speakest no proverb.

Douay-Rheims

λεγουσιν αυτω οι μαθηται αυτου ιδε νυν παρρησια λαλεις και παροιμιαν ουδεμιαν λεγεις

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

11 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

When He said, "A little while, and you will not see Me, and again a little while, and you will see Me," the disciples naturally did not understand this. But now it is not so.

Now they have learned that they will be friends of the Father, and this especially encouraged them. Therefore they say: "Now we know that You know all things" (v. 30).

Do you see how His answer corresponded to their thoughts? "And You have no need that anyone should question You" (v. 30). That is, before You heard, You knew what was troubling us and calmed us by saying: "The Father loves you, because you have loved Me" (v. 27).

Only now, after so many and such great words, the disciples say, "Now we know." Do you see how imperfect they still were?

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Then, since they say "Now we know" as though offering Him some gratitude, He answers: You still need much in order to come to perfection. You are not yet perfect in anything.

Even now you will deliver Me over to the enemies. Such fear will seize you that you will not even be able to withdraw together. Yet I shall suffer no harm from this.

Do you see how His word is again adapted to their understanding? This is precisely what He reproves in them, that they constantly need such condescension.

Since they had said, "Behold, now You speak plainly and speak no parable" (v. 29), and therefore, "We believe You" (v. 30), He shows that even now, when they believe, they do not yet believe. He does not admit their words. He says this with the future in view.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

Since hearing that He had come forth from God and was going again to God consoled them in various ways, He often speaks of this.

Therefore, having received benefit from hearing this and being encouraged, what do they themselves say? “His disciples said to Him: Behold, now You are speaking plainly and using no figure of speech.”

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

They marvel at the proof as most evident and are struck by the clarity of His speech, for He speaks to them without any concealment.

Therefore they rejoice, having received a proof free from every difficulty. They say that this speech has nothing incomprehensible in it, but that the words on this very matter are so clear that there seems to be not the slightest trace of parable.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

How could they say, "Behold, now You speak plainly and speak no parable"? Had the hour truly come, that hour in which, as He promised, He would no longer speak in parables?

No, of course that hour had not yet come, as is clear from what follows. They speak this way because, although the Lord continues to converse with them in parables, they are so far from understanding them that they do not even understand the fact that they do not understand His words.

They were still infants, unable to discern spiritually what they heard.

On verses 29-30. The state of Christ's disciples, when before His Passion He spoke to them about great matters as to children, is revealed throughout the whole Gospel by many testimonies.

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He did indeed speak as one ought to speak about great things to children. For they had not yet received the Holy Spirit, as they received Him after Christ's Resurrection, either from His breathing (Jn 20:22) or from on high (Acts 2:3).

Therefore they understood more about human things than about divine things. The words they spoke in this passage also belong to this.

A little earlier the Lord Himself had said: "These things I have spoken to you in parables, but the time is coming when I shall no longer speak to you in parables" (Jn 16:25).

How then do they say, "Behold, now You speak plainly and speak no parable"? Had the time already come in which He promised that He would no longer speak in parables?

Certainly, the sequence of His words shows that this time had not yet come. The sequence is this: "These things I have spoken to you in parables, but the time is coming when I shall no longer speak to you in parables, but shall tell you plainly of the Father. In that day you will ask in My name. I do not say to you that I shall pray the Father for you, for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have believed that I came forth from God. I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father" (Jn 16:25-28).

Through all these words He is still promising that time when He will no longer speak in parables. Then He will plainly tell them of the Father.

He says that in that time they will ask in His name. He Himself will not ask the Father for them, for the Father Himself will show love toward them.

This is because they have loved Christ and believed that He came forth from the Father, came into the world, and will again leave the world and go to the Father.

Since, then, He is still promising the time when He will not speak in parables, why did they say, "Behold, now You speak plainly and speak no parable"?

It can only be because He speaks of certain things in parables to the uninstructed, knowing that they are still so unready to understand such things that they do not even understand that they do not understand.

They were still children. They did not yet judge spiritually what they heard about things belonging not to the body, but to the spirit.

Alexander Gorsky

19th centuryChurch Father

After all this, the faith of the disciples was somewhat strengthened. They recognized the mighty power of the words of their Teacher. It seemed to them that they now understood Him more correctly.

Yet this was only the result of the vivid impression made on them by the Lord's words. It was not a clear awareness of their truth or a true understanding of them.

Nevertheless, deceiving themselves, they said to Jesus: "Now You speak plainly and speak no parable." These very words were already an evident result of misunderstanding. "Now we believe that You came from God."

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But the Lord warned them not to trust this momentary feeling too much. This faith of theirs would soon fall beneath the heavy weight of other feelings. They would leave Him alone, the very One in whom they now claimed to believe.

Bogolepow D.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

The disciples were struck that Jesus Christ had just spoken about a question they had not voiced to Him, and which they had quietly put only to one another, cf. Jn 16:17-19.

At the same time, they find His speech an answer to their inner questions. This greatly stirs their faith in Him, and with fervor they confess that He came forth from God.

But in response to this fervent confession, the Lord foretells a difficult trial of their faith, when they will leave Him and scatter in different directions.

Gladkow B.I.

19th centuryChurch Father

"I have spoken to you in parables, but the time is coming when I shall tell you plainly of the Father. Until now I have prayed to the Father for you. But then you yourselves will ask in My name, and you will receive. For the Father loves you because you have loved Me and have believed that I came forth from God. Yes, I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father."

Whether the Apostles understood that Jesus Christ, when He spoke of His departure from them and of seeing them again soon afterward, meant His death and His appearance to them after His Resurrection, is unknown. It is more likely that they did not understand.

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As for His words about coming forth from the Father, these words were apparently understood by their hearts and received with joy. For they immediately said to Him: "See, now You speak plainly. Therefore we believe that You came forth from God."

Michail (Lusin)

19th centuryChurch Father

This powerful ray of the light of truth had a striking effect on the disciples. Everything seemed clear to them. The doubts and perplexities that occupied them seemed resolved.

They imagined that they were now in full light and no longer needed greater illumination. It seemed to them that the time of which the Lord had just spoken as still future had already come for them.

That was the time when He would no longer speak to them in parables, but would speak plainly of divine mysteries (v. 25). Therefore they say: "Behold, now You speak plainly and speak no parable."

The Lord had answered them plainly (v. 28) concerning the question that occupied them, though they had not put it to Him (vv. 17-19). They were so struck by this that they thought another promised time had already come.

The Lord had just spoken of it as future, the time when they would ask Him nothing (v. 23). Therefore they say: "Now we see that You know all things, and have no need that anyone should question You."

Nikolaj Alexandrow

19th centuryChurch Father

The Apostles believed in Christ as the Son of God. Only the necessity of death on the Cross, incomprehensible to them in the presence of divine power, troubled them and shook their faith.

Now Christ answered the secret thoughts of the Apostles and thereby revealed His divine omniscience. He also spoke to them decisively and clearly of His divine dignity.

Then the light of faith again burned brightly in their hearts, which were filled with love for Him, and they cried out: "We believe that You came forth from God" (vv. 29-30).

Philaret (Gumilevski)

19th centuryChurch Father

The disciples of the Lord Jesus confess before Him that, first, they see nothing dark or enigmatic in His words. Second, they are convinced of His omniscience, especially by the recent experience.

Before they questioned the Lord, He Himself revealed and explained their perplexity to them. Is it not clear that He knows all things? After this experience, they also believe that He came from God, that He is the Messiah, the Messenger of God.

The Lord Himself confirmed this confession of the disciples as sincere, when He said of them that they truly understood that He had been sent by the heavenly Father (Jn 17:18).

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Yet this assessment of themselves was not without error. According to the Lord's words, the time when He would speak without parables was still ahead. Why then do they say, "Behold, You speak plainly and speak no parable"?

Does this not expose that His words were not as clear to them as they thought? They were imagining too much about themselves and were even carried as far as contradicting their Lord.

Such is our self-love. How often some think and say of themselves that the mysteries of faith are sufficiently known to them, that they have been instructed and established in them, and have no need at all of new instruction.

In reality, they are as little informed in the knowledge of Christian truths as children know little of what is sometimes hidden even from mature minds.

Wlastow G.K.

19th centuryChurch Father

Concerning the words of the disciples, Chrysostom observes that, although they say, "Now we know," their very words make it clear that they still did not understand much.

"Do you now believe?" the Lord says to them, revealing the double error in their speech. The Lord points out the imperfection of their faith. He also shows that true faith is in their hearts, long since kindled by miracles and by divine words of grace proceeding from His lips.

That they truly loved the Lord and believed in Him is witnessed by the Lord Himself above in verse 27. Yet the words they now speak in verses 29-30 were empty and human words.

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It now seemed to them that they had understood the full depth of the mystery of the Lord's coming, and that they had grasped it with their human reason. But understanding the mysteries of the Godhead is granted only by the Holy Spirit, whom they had not yet received.

Human reason cannot comprehend them. Therefore, by His question, "Do you now believe?" the Lord chiefly indicates that the disciples themselves do not understand what they are saying.

They claim that only now have they learned and understood everything, and that because of this they believe. If they had not loved the Lord and believed in Him, they would long since have departed from Him, as some others did (Jn 6:66).

But they were attached in soul to the Lord, though of course they still did not understand much.

Continuing His speech, the Lord points out another side of the disciples' mistaken assurance. When they asserted, "Now we believe," the Lord indicated that grace-filled faith had long since touched their hearts. They truly both believed and loved.

Yet, on the other hand, the Knower of hearts showed them that their faith was not firm, as they wished to persuade themselves when they said, "We believe that You came forth from God."

For the hour had already come, when the Lord was going to the brook Kidron. Then they would run in different directions, maddened by fear, and would hide in their dwellings. They would instantly forget their solemn declaration of faith.

A few minutes after this assurance, they leave their dearly loved Teacher, humanly speaking, alone. But the Lord does not reproach them. He only foretells the future.

The firmness and immovability of faith would be established in the disciples' hearts by the Lord's Resurrection and by their sanctification through the Holy Spirit. The strength of man is weak when it is not strengthened by the Spirit of God.

Humanly speaking, the Lord remains alone, and the man Christ Jesus is alone before the crowd of enemies. Yet this is God, who by His Sacrifice works the salvation of men, and in His Being is one with the Father.

The Lord expresses this in the words: "I am not alone, because the Father is with Me." Cf. above Jn 8:29: "The Father has not left Me alone," and Jn 10:30: "I and the Father are one."

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Passages read together with this verse.

The original text

Greek text, 13 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. Λέγουσιν
    legousin
    I say
    G3004 · λέγω
  2. οἱ
    hoi
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  3. μαθηταὶ
    mathētai
    a learner
    G3101 · μαθητής
  4. αὐτοῦ
    autou
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  5. Ἴδε
    ide
    See! Lo! Behold! Look!
    G2396 · ἴδε
  6. νῦν
    nyn
    now
    G3568 · νῦν
  7. ἐν
    en
    in
    G1722 · ἐν
  8. παρρησίᾳ
    parrēsia
    freedom
    G3954 · παρρησία
  9. λαλεῖς
    laleis
    I speak
    G2980 · λαλέω
  10. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  11. παροιμίαν
    paroimian
    an allegory
    G3942 · παροιμία
  12. οὐδεμίαν
    oudemian
    no one
    G3762 · οὐδείς
  13. λέγεις
    legeis
    I say
    G3004 · λέγω