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Matthew 15:38Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

And they that did eat, were four thousand men, beside children and women.

Douay-Rheims

οι δε εσθιοντες ησαν τετρακισχιλιοι ανδρες χωρις γυναικων και παιδιων

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

15 Church Fathers comment on this verse · 21 commentaries

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

For the multitude when they came to be healed, had not dared to ask for food, but He that loveth man, and hath care of all creatures, gives it to them unasked; whence He says, I have compassion upon the multitude. That it should not be said that they had brought provision with them on their way, He says, Because they continue with me now three days, and have nothing to eat. For though when they came they had food, it was now consumed, and for this reason He did it not on the first or second day, but on the third, when all was consumed that they might have brought with them; and thus they having been first placed in need, might take the food that was now provided with keener appetite.

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That they had come from far, and that nothing was now left them, is shewn in what He says, And I will not send, them, away fasting, lest they faint by the way. Yet He does not immediately proceed to work the miracle, that He may rouse the disciples’ attention by this questioning, and that they may shew their faith by saying to Him, Create loaves. And though at the time of the former miracle Christ had done many things to the end that they should remember it, making them distribute the loaves, and divide the baskets among them, yet they were still imperfectly disposed, as appears from what follows; And his disciples say unto him, Whence should we have so much, bread in the wilderness as to fill so great a multitude? This they spoke out of the infirmity of their thoughts, yet thereby making the ensuing miracle to be beyond suspicion; for that none might suspect that the loaves had been got from a neighbouring village, this miracle is wrought in the wilderness far distant from villages. Then to arouse His disciples’ thoughts, He puts a question to them, which may call the foregone miracle to their minds; And Jesus saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? They said unto him, Seven, and a few little fishes. But they do not add, ‘But what are they among so many?’ as they had said before; for they had advanced somewhat, though they did not yet comprehend the whole. Admire in the Apostles their love of truth, though themselves are the writers, they do not conceal their own great faults; and it is no light self-accusation to have so soon forgotten so great a miracle. Observe also their wisdom in another respect, how they had overcome their appetite, taking so little care of their meals, that though they had been three days in the desert, yet they had with them only seven loaves. Some other things also He does like to what had been done before. He makes them to sit down on the ground, and the bread to grow in the hands of the disciples; as it follows, And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the ground.

The end of the two miracles is different; And they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets full. Now they that had eaten were four thousand men, besides children and women. Whence are the fragments fewer in this miracle than in the former, although they that ate were not so many? It is either that the basket1 in this miracle is of larger capacity than the basket2 in the former, or that by this point of difference they might remember the two separate miracles; for which reason also He then made the number of baskets equal to the number of the disciples, but now to the number of the loaves.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

Surely it will not be out of place to suggest upon this miracle, that if any of the Evangelists who had not given the miracle of the five loaves had related this of the seven loaves, he would have been supposed to have contradicted the rest. But because those who have related the one, have also related the other, no one is puzzled, but it is understood at once that they were two separate miracles. This we have said, that wherever any thing is found done by the Lord, wherein the accounts of any two Evangelists seem irreconcilable, we may understand them as two distinct occurrences, of which one is related by one Evangelist, and one by another.

Jerome of Stridon

5th centuryChurch Father

As we have spoken of this above, it would be tedious to repeat what has been already said; we shall therefore only dwell on those particulars in which this differs from the former.

Christ first took away the infirmities of the sick, and afterwards supplied food to them that had been healed. Also He calls His disciples to tell them what He is about to do; Then Jesus called his disciples unto him, and said, I have compassion on the multitude. This He does that He may give an example to masters of sharing their counsels with the young, and their disciples; or, that by this dialogue they might come to understand the greatness of the miracle.

For these are not five, but four thousand; the number four being one always used in a good sense, and a four-sided stone is firm and rocks not, for which reason the Gospels also have been sacredly bestowed in this number. Also in the former miracle, because the people were neighbours unto the five senseso, it is the disciples, and not the Lord, that calls to mind their condition; but here the Lord Himself says, that He has compassion upon them, because they continue now three days with Him, that is, they believed on the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Ambrose of Milan

4th centuryChurch Father

The significance of the numbers involved—the quantity of food leftover after the miraculous feeding—is deliberate and profound. There is a noteworthy contrast where five thousand individuals are nourished by just five loaves, while four thousand are fed with seven loaves, raising questions about these details. If one simply observes the miracle, it appears more miraculous that a smaller quantity of loaves provided sustenance for a larger crowd. Why does the lesser seem more prominent in this account? Initially, five thousand people were fed by five loaves, followed by another four thousand with seven loaves. This leads us to seek a deeper meaning behind these events.

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It may be inferred that the five thousand, akin to the five human senses, received from Christ sustenance suited for those who live by the flesh. The four thousand, however, although still immersed in the physical realm, partake in a more profound, spiritual nourishment—suggestive of resting from worldly cares while simultaneously transcending them. Though they reside in this world, their sustenance allows them to rise above it. The rest that Christ offers is a divine one, beyond worldly existence, underscoring the blessedness of those who maintain peace, as they are called sons of God (Matt. 5:9). Since God exists outside of the material world, it is only through spiritual insight that one can truly encounter Him (Jn. 1:18).

The seven baskets filled with remnants after feeding the four thousand also resonate with the concept of divine rest, reflecting the Sabbath. Those who partake in earthly nourishment may one day consume a higher sustenance beyond this life. The partition of the seven loaves signifies rest, while the eight loaves symbolize resurrection—identified historically with the eighth day, the dawning of the new age in Christ's resurrection. Thus, the seven loaves sustain the four thousand for three days, perhaps instilling in them a clear faith in the resurrection. The saints proclaim, "Three days shall we go forth to make a feast to the Lord our God" (Exodus 5:3).

Concerning the five loaves, St. John reveals that they were barley loaves, emphasizing their appropriateness for those of a more carnal disposition. Barley serves as an initial sustenance, much like the foundation of faith that must first be laid before progressing to richer spiritual nourishment (1 Cor. 3:2; Heb. 5:12). If there are divisions and conflicts among us, aren't we still bound by worldly tendencies (1 Cor. 3:1,3)? Different virtues align with distinct kinds of spiritual nourishment; thus, we receive barley at first and later wheat, much like Elijah who partook in sustenance beyond carnal understanding.

The distinction between the two gatherings also encompasses where the people reclined while eating. The five thousand rested on the grass, symbolizing a more superficial comfort, while the four thousand settled on the ground, representing a deeper connection to true nourishment that sustains life, such as wheat, wine, and olive (Deut. 8:8). The separation between the two gatherings reflects a contrast in spiritual depth and contentment. The seven loaves highlight the grace offered to those gathered from the four corners of the world, showcasing the Church's universality.

Christ gave thanks to the Father, emphasizing gratitude as essential for His Church (Mark 8:6; Matt. 15:36; Jn. 6:11). We see that blessing accompanies humility, while thanksgiving acknowledges those who have triumphed over human frailties through the holy trials of faith. This contrasts with how the people were seated in groups of fifty, a sacred number, denoting the structured formation of the spiritually strong Church.

As the people were nourished by the apostles, their ministry signifies the future sharing of the Lord’s body and blood. Truly miraculous is the fact that five loaves sufficed for five thousand people, with the bread undergoing multiplication rather than simply being divided. This miracle illustrates a divine abundance that reflects the continuous providence of God—the bread is the Word that, when shared, multiplies exceedingly as it nourishes.

In an astonishing demonstration, as loaves were dispensed, the pieces increased—originating not from mere physical existence but from divine grace, transcending all understanding. The ongoing miracles, such as the transformation of water into the finest wine at the wedding, serve to affirm the faith of those who would believe (Jn. 2:11).

In contrast, the empty promises of the world stand in stark opposition to Christ’s abundant gifts. The myth surrounding King Midas, where all he touched turned to gold only to become his curse, exemplifies the emptiness of idol worship compared to the true fullness found in Christ. While the earthly feeds may seem small, they yield eternal salvation to the multitudes.

Regarding the disparities in remaining food, twelve baskets from the five thousand and seven from the four thousand reveal purposeful abundance, as these four thousand had been with Christ for three days, receiving richness in heavenly nourishment. The disciples gathered the leftovers intentionally, reflecting a divine wisdom in recognizing that true treasures are often hidden within the chosen few rather than the masses.

Moreover, Christ's teaching, which deepens the law, demonstrates how He expounded upon the commandments, calling attention to their spiritual urgency. For example, to look at a woman with lust is to commit adultery in the heart (Matt. 5:28). In His teaching, He provides insight into gathering more profound truths from the same law—such as illustrating the relationship between the sons of Abraham and the two covenants (Gal. 4:22, 24).

When Christ filled twelve baskets with leftovers, His intent was to fulfill the spiritual nourishment of His people, liberating them from past bonds and leading them to heavenly sustenance—the baskets signify the abundance available for all tribes, demonstrating that His bread strengthens hearts and souls (Ps. 103:15).

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryCommentator

The reason for there being twelve baskets left in one instance and seven in another, despite an expectation of a different count, is intriguing. Some theologians suggest that the baskets may have been larger than the boxes, or that this discrepancy in the leftovers was deliberate, serving to eternally commemorate both miracles. Additionally, it may be significant that the number of boxes corresponds to the number of the Apostles while the baskets correspond to the loaves, illustrating that fulfilling His will is effortless for Him.

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A deeper interpretation may be required regarding the two groups: the five thousand and the four. The five thousand represent those with less spiritual maturity, while the four symbolize the more spiritually advanced. Although there are many among both groups, the less mature are generally more numerous than the more mature. The less mature, by being near Christ, are able to take in spiritual teachings, but their understanding is limited due to their weaker intellect. Conversely, the more mature grasp more because of their stronger understanding, resulting in a greater retention of spiritual insights.

While this explanation presents the concepts straightforwardly, others delve into excessive detail, offering convoluted arguments in this context and throughout various studies. We choose to bypass such intricacies, as they often lead to unnecessary confusion.

Hilarius of Poitiers

4th centuryChurch Father

As that first multitude which He fed answers to the people among the Jews that believed; so this is compared to the people of the Gentiles, the number of four thousand denoting an innumerable number of people out of the four quarters of the earth.

Or, they spend the whole time of the Lord’s passion with the Lord; either because when they should come to baptism, they would confess that they believed in His passion and resurrection; or, because through the whole time of the Lord’s passion they are joined to the Lord by fasting in a kind of union of suffering with Him.

The multitudes sit down on the ground; for before they had not reposed on the works of the Law, but they had supported themselves on their own sins, as men standing on their feet.

Rabanus Maurus

9th centuryChurch Father

Or, this is said because in all time there have only been three periods when grace was given; the first, before the Law; the second, under the Law; the third, under grace; the fourth, is in heaven, to which as we journey we are refreshed by the way.

Remigius of Auxerre

9th centuryChurch Father

In this Gospel lection we must consider in Christ the work of His humanity, and of His divinity. In that He has compassion on the multitudes, He shews that He has feeling of human frailty; in the multiplication of the loaves, and the feeding the multitudes, is shewn the working of His divinity. So here is overthrown the error of Eutyches1, who said, that in Christ was one nature only.

Or, because correcting by penitence the sins that they have committed, in thought, word, and deed, they turn to the Lord. These multitudes the Lord would not send away fasting, that they should not faint by the way; because sinners turning in penitence, perish in their passage through the world, if they are sent away without the nourishment of sacred teaching.

Abbot Panteleimon about the Trinity

19th centuryCommentator

AND THEY ALL ATE AND WERE SATISFIED. Following this, without any specific instruction, the apostles collected the leftover fragments into seven overflowing baskets, and there were FOUR THOUSAND MEN EXCLUDING WOMEN AND CHILDREN. In a serene and composed manner, devoid of the fervor that marked the initial miracle of the loaves, the Saviour made His way into the boat. He chose not to travel by the dry route to avoid prompting the people who followed Him to glorify Him, instead crossing the lake by boat, and He arrived at the RESIDENCES OF MAGDALA, or as St.

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Mark refers to it (Mark 8:10), ‘of Dalmanufa.’ The two towns, Magdala and Dalmanufa, were located on the south-western shore of the Sea of Galilee, near Tiberias; from Magdala came Mary Magdalene, the Equal-to-the-Apostles, whom the Lord had freed from demon possession. St. John Chrysostom elucidates the miraculous feeding, stating that the Lord performs such wonders infrequently, and on only two occasions, to instruct the Apostles to prioritize spiritual sustenance over earthly concerns. We too must endeavor to seek these heavenly provisions, and once we have partaken of them, set aside all mundane anxieties. If the Jews were willing to abandon their homes, cities, and families to remain in the wilderness, enduring hunger without departing from Jesus, how much more ought we to demonstrate prudence and value spiritual treasures as we partake in such a feast. He who disregards the greater blessings in pursuit of the lesser is ultimately deprived of the former. Yet, if we cherish the first gifts, God graciously provides the latter, as they serve to complement the gifts bestowed upon the children of the Kingdom. This is the lesson from Christ, the Giver Himself: ‘seek,’ He instructs, ‘first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things,’ meaning all that is necessary for our earthly existence, ‘will be added to you,’ provided to you without your request, as if they are an addition to those spiritual treasures given to the children of the Kingdom of God.

Alexander Gorsky

19th centuryCommentator

Upon concluding His time with the people, who attentively listened to His numerous teachings and remained with Him for several days, the Lord provided a physical meal. With His blessing, seven loaves and a few fish were multiplied, nourishing approximately four thousand individuals, not counting the women and children. The disciples collected the leftovers, filling seven baskets in accordance with the number of loaves that had been distributed.

Bogolepow D.P.

19th centuryCommentator

Clearly, in one instance, there are two fish mentioned, while in the other, the wording is more ambiguous with a reference to a few fish. Furthermore, in the first miracle, twelve baskets of leftover fragments were collected, compared to seven in the second case. Matthew uniquely notes that four thousand men, not counting their wives and children, were present to partake in the meal.

Gladkow B.I.

19th centuryCommentator

The confusion experienced by the apostles soon cleared when Jesus executed the second miracle of multiplying bread to nourish the multitudes. On this occasion, four thousand men, not including women and children, were fed, and seven baskets of leftovers were gathered.

Lopuchin A.P.

19th centuryCommentator

This extraordinary event attracted a large crowd to the Savior, hungry to listen to his teachings and benefit from his miracles. Once again, on the shores of the Sea of Galilee, Christ performed the miracle of feeding the multitude, providing for four thousand men, in addition to women and children, with just seven loaves of bread and five small fish.

Michail (Lusin)

19th centuryCommentator

The account of the second instance of multiplying the loaves to nourish the vast crowd parallels the initial miracle and doesn't necessitate an extensive exposition. "For three days now they have been with Me." To prevent any from asserting, "They arrived with provisions," the Lord emphasizes, "They have been with Me for three days; thus, if they had come with a supply, it would have been depleted." Consequently, He did not perform the miracle on the first or second day, but rather once they had exhausted everything, allowing them to recognize their need and receive the miracle with even greater joy. This is why He also mentions, "Lest they become weary on the road," indicating that the journey back to the village was considerable and that they had no provisions left.

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To eliminate any doubts about the source of the loaves, He specifies the very location (in the wilderness - Matthew 15:33), ensuring they were aware of the miraculous nature of the event. Thus, both this and the prior miracle took place in the wilderness.

Paul Matwejewski

19th centuryCommentator

Following this, Jesus Christ instructed the crowd to recline on the ground. He took the seven loaves, offered praise to the heavenly Father, broke the loaves, and distributed them through His disciples to the people. Everyone partook and was satisfied, with four thousand individuals present, not counting women and children. Similar to the first miracle of feeding, the disciples collected the remaining pieces, resulting in seven full baskets of leftovers. Although there were fewer scraps this time compared to the previous instance, there were also fewer people fed. This distinction was a way for the Lord to aid the disciples' memory, ensuring that the likeness of the two miracles would not lead to forgetfulness or confusion between them.

The original text

Greek text, 10 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. οἱ
    hoi
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  2. δὲ
    de
    but
    G1161 · δέ
  3. ἐσθίοντες
    esthiontes
    I eat
    G2068 · ἐσθίω
  4. ἦσαν
    ēsan
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  5. τετρακισχίλιοι
    tetrakischilioi
    four thousand
    G5070 · τετρακισχίλιοι
  6. ἄνδρες
    andres
    a male human being
    G435 · ἀνήρ
  7. χωρὶς
    chōris
    apart from
    G5565 · χωρίς
  8. γυναικῶν
    gynaikōn
    a woman
    G1135 · γυνή
  9. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  10. παιδίων
    paidiōn
    a little child
    G3813 · παιδίον