The Church Fathers on this verse

Psalm 12 (11):5Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Who have said: We will magnify our tongue: our lips are our own: who is Lord over us?

Douay-Rheims · Hebrew numbering, Septuagint numbering in brackets.

אֲשֶׁ֤ר אָֽמְר֨וּ ׀ לִלְשֹׁנֵ֣נוּ נַ֭גְבִּיר שְׂפָתֵ֣ינוּ אִתָּ֑נוּ מִ֖י אָד֣וֹן לָֽנוּ׃

Hebrew (Masoretic text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

7 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

A different translator remarks that we will reign. Our speech is under our control. Another version states: we have the essence with us. Who is our Master? Another translation inquires: who will govern us? ...and mocking their folly, it states, "Our mouths are ours, who is our Master?" Such words are typical of the possessed and the insane! Therefore, Paul, in opposition to them, indicates: "Know you not that you are bought with a price" (1 Cor. 6:19, 20) and instructs us to live not for ourselves (Rom. 16:7). He asserts that these mouths do not belong to you, but to the Lord: He formed them, fashioned them, and gave them life. But do you possess them?

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Not everything that we have is truly ours: similar to how we possess money entrusted to us by others, or land lent to us by those who own it. God did not grant you a mouth to bear thorns, but to sow fruitful seeds, enabling you to speak not emptiness and deceit, but humility, blessing, and love. He gave you eyes not for lustful gazes, but to adorn them with purity; and He provided you hands not to harm, but to give generously. How can you claim, "our mouths are our own," when you use them as instruments of sin, adultery, and impurity? "Who is our Master?" Oh, wretched utterance, oh, wicked spirit! Do you not recognize, O man, how all of creation proclaims the power, wisdom, care, and providence of your Lord? Your body, soul, life, that which is seen and unseen—all proclaim the might of the Creator—and yet you say, "Who is our Master?" Such words stem from folly, audacity, and mental decay; they lead to countless evils. Some ask, "Who is our Lord?" while others, despite acknowledging the Lord, dismiss the doctrine of judgment and punishment, inviting great suffering for fleeting pleasure. In their effort to forget about Gehenna, they dangerously fall into the abyss of destruction through their indifference. Therefore, I urge you to reflect on Gehenna and discuss it, adorning your soul in a fitting manner, for there are significant benefits in such discourse. God does not threaten us with Gehenna in vain; He does so to encourage our improvement through fear. This is why the devil employs every tactic to erase the memory of Gehenna. Thus, do not forget it; do not ask why you should cause yourself unnecessary sorrow. Is this sorrow unnecessary? It will indeed be unnecessary when you find yourself tormented in Gehenna; this is the time for penitence, not there. The rich man who lived near Lazarus illustrates this truth; his numerous afflictions brought him no relief. Had he undergone humility in this life, he would not have faced such suffering.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

Meaning arrogant pretenders rely on their words to mislead others and refuse to yield to God.

Athanasius the Great

4th centuryChurch Father

They seemed to believe they had the authority to utter anything they wished against the Savior. Their question, "Who is Lord to us?" echoes a sentiment of ignorance: “But we do not know this, wherefore it is” (John 9:29).

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

They do not endure, as the Prophet reveals, a harmony between words and the reality of actions, nor do they heed the divine commandments. With unrestrained tongues, they boldly express whatever comes to mind, showing little regard for God's patience, while failing to recognize they are under God's authority. This was true of Pharaoh, who proclaimed: ‘We do not perceive the Lord’ (Ex. 5:2). This was evident in Rapsak, who had the audacity to declare, ‘Let not your God, in whom you trust, deceive you, that he will deliver Jerusalem out of my hand’ (4 Kings 19:10). Similarly, Nebuchadnezzar intimidated the courageous young men, boldly asking, ‘Who is God, that will deliver you out of my hand?’ (Dan. 3:15).

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As these figures faced consequences for their arrogance, likewise, those referenced in the prophetic words will endure fitting retribution. The Prophet further proclaimed: For the suffering of the poor, and the sighing of the poor, I will now arise, saith the Lord, to put him in safety whom they want to trap.

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryCommentator

God declares that He will eliminate those who harbor such thoughts within themselves—those who believe they can boast and speak arrogantly. They assert, "Our speech is our own; who is the Lord to us?" It is spoken by those who proclaim, “Our own mouths and tongues are our authority.” Thus, whom should we fear when uttering such haughty words? Who is capable of stopping us from expressing our clever sayings? Paul, addressing this illusion, reminds them in 1 Corinthians 6:20, "Ye are not your own; for ye are bought with a price," urging them to live not for themselves but for the Lord, who created them and their speech.

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How can one claim, “Our speech belongs to us,” when it is in bondage to sin, greed, and impurity? Who is this Lord you ask about? Such words echo the voice of the adversary! The entirety of creation bears witness to the might, wisdom, care, and Providence of the Creator; yet you dare to declare, “Who is the Lord over us?”

In reflection, consider how those who speak with open disdain for God's patience, believing they are free from His authority, boldly voice their opinions. Pharaoh once declared, "I know not the Lord;" Rabsaces taunted, "Let not thy God deceive thee," while Nebuchadnezzar, instilling fear in those brave young men, boasted, "Who is the God that can deliver you out of my hand?"

Irenaeus (Klementjewsky)

18th centuryCommentator

In these statements, he foretells the fate of those who engage in flattery, believing they can gain something from it, including slanderers and those who spread gossip; they will face eternal destruction. By linking the mouths of the flatterers with the tongues of the talkative, he illustrates that those who flatter not only injure their neighbor with their words but also take pride in their actions, praising their own deceitfulness and viewing the speech of the talkative as significant, while effectively looking down upon God, who bestowed upon humanity the gift of speech to exalt His name. Our mouths are a testament to our Lord—implying that we refuse to acknowledge anyone as greater than us who could exercise authority over us. We will triumph through our words. Such were the courtiers in David's time during Saul's reign, as was Pharaoh, Rabshekah, and Nebuchadnezzar.

Psalter with Commentaries (Cave Monastery in Kiew)

19th centuryCommentator

Cursed are those who consider themselves wise, engaging in disputes over falsehood instead of truth, and justifying wickedness in place of righteousness. They proclaim good as evil and evil as good, confusing bitterness with sweetness and sweetness with bitterness (Is. 5:20). Yet, that very tongue will also lift up praises, especially when blessing those who suffer (Luke 6:28). The voices of those who kneel are united, much like the wicked among the Jews when they called upon Christ the Lord: "His blood be upon us and upon our children" (Matt. 27:25). Who is our Lord? This reveals a profound insolence against God, akin to that of Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar, and others (Athanasius).

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