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Psalm 13 (12):2Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

How long shall I take counsels in my soul, sorrow in my heart all the day?

Douay-Rheims · Hebrew numbering, Septuagint numbering in brackets.

עַד־אָ֣נָה יְ֭הוָה תִּשְׁכָּחֵ֣נִי נֶ֑צַח עַד־אָ֓נָה ׀ תַּסְתִּ֖יר אֶת־פָּנֶ֣יךָ מִמֶּֽנִּי׃

Hebrew (Masoretic text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

13 Church Fathers comment on this verse · 14 commentaries

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

Experiencing a sense of divine neglect is not an insignificant matter. It is important to clarify that this neglect is not a mere emotional state, but rather a feeling of abandonment. Many individuals who find themselves in a state of divine forgetfulness may not even realize it, nor do they lament their situation. In contrast, the blessed David not only recognized this neglect but also measured the duration of it, since the phrase "as long as" indicates the passage of time. Thus, he both laments and weeps. Observe how he did not mourn for earthly possessions, nor for fame or honor, but consistently yearned for God's favor. How, you might wonder, did he realize he was forgotten by God?

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It was because he was fully aware of when God remembered him and clearly understood the essence of this neglect and remembrance—unlike many who, when prosperous, honored by others, or victorious over foes, believe that God is mindful of them; they therefore fail to discern when He has forgotten them. Lacking awareness of the indicators of His remembrance, they are equally blind to the signals of His forgetfulness; without understanding the signs of His love, they cannot recognize signs of His displeasure. God sometimes overlooks those blessed with worldly possessions—and indeed, such individuals may be especially at risk of this neglect; conversely, He is often attentive to those who lack these earthly goods. Divine remembrance stems solely from righteous deeds, vigilance, and the pursuit of virtue, while forgetfulness emerges from sin, greed, and wrongdoing. Therefore, dear friends, when facing trials, do not claim that God has forsaken you; rather, it is essential to recognize that when you live in sin and experience success, true neglect may be at play. If you are mindful of this, you will soon turn away from sinful actions. 'How long wilt Thou hide Thy face from me?' This conveys the utmost sense of divine neglect. The prophet illustrates God's actions through human analogies regarding His wrath and judgment. God's face is turned away when we fail to live according to His commandments: 'When you spread out your hands, I will hide My eyes from you'; He further explains, 'Your hands are full of blood' (Isaiah 1:15). However, this turning away is also rooted in God's profound concern for us. He does this as a means to draw us closer to Him. Similar to a lover who, noticing indifference from their beloved, may withdraw not to forget them but to ignite a deeper bond. After addressing God's aversion and seeming forgetfulness, the prophet conveys the inner turmoil it incites: 'How long shall I lay down thoughts in my soul?'

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

The Impure Spirit Just as God does not overlook anyone, He also never turns away. However, the Scriptures reflect our own understanding. It is written that God turns away when He is not revealed to a soul lacking the clarity of pure discernment.

How long, O Lord, will You completely disregard me? (Psalm 12:1) This reflects the feeling of being distanced from the spiritual insight into Christ, who embodies the Wisdom of God and represents the ultimate destination of the soul's aspirations. For how long will You hide Your face from me? Though God does not truly forget, nor does He turn away from us, Scripture expresses our experience. It is written that God turns away His face when He withholds the understanding of Himself from the soul that has not yet attained the clarity of spiritual vision.

Basil the Great

4th centuryChurch Father

The psalm illustrates the depth of temptation with the phrase, "until you forget me." It instructs us not to be disheartened in times of trouble, but rather to patiently anticipate God’s mercy. We are reminded that God allows us to face trials, and that the challenges we encounter are proportionate to the faith we possess.

Athanasius the Great

4th centuryChurch Father

How long, O Lord, will You entirely neglect me? Sin forged the path to God through repentance, though it seems like an eternity. How long will You hide Your face from me? The angels must behold this countenance.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

"How long, O Lord, wilt Thou utterly forget me?" The Prophet describes the delay in Divine assistance as a form of amnesia, pleading that we not be entirely deprived of Divine providence. "How long wilt Thou hide Thy face from me?" This expression is drawn from the behavior of those who, in anger, refuse to look upon those who have wronged them; thus, he succinctly implores, "Look upon me, and have mercy upon me." In referring to the face, he does not indicate a literal face, and when mentioning disgust, he is not speaking of true disgust, but instead employs a metaphor that draws from human experience.

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryCommentator

O Lord, how long will You allow me to be forgotten? Forgetting implies a loss of memory. However, since all things are ever-present before God—not only the grand deeds and actions but also the tiniest thoughts of the heart—the notion of God's forgetfulness can be understood, in conjunction with Chrysostom, as the forsaking of those who have strayed and failed to uphold His commandments. God permits violators of His statutes to face trials, with the aim of discipline and correction. The phrase “to the end” also signifies a prolonged period.

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Chrysostom further emphasizes that nothing is as significant before God as acts of goodness, self-control, vigilance, and perseverance in virtue; conversely, the opposite is forgotten. Therefore, in times of hardship, do not claim God has abandoned you, for even amidst your struggles, if you understood this truth, you would quickly turn away from wrongdoing. St. Basil the Great expounds on the severity of temptation in the phrase “until You forget me,” teaching us not to despair during trials but to anticipate God's mercy. He reminds us that, in His sight, He allows us to encounter hardship, adjusting the challenges according to the faith we possess.

How long will Your countenance be hidden from me? The countenance of God symbolizes His watchful presence and favor; conversely, when God turns away, it indicates the withdrawal of His oversight and grace. According to Chrysostom, God withdraws from those unworthy of His gaze, as He detests their wicked actions. David portrays this divine sentiment through human understanding: when individuals abandon someone, they also forget them, and when they turn away, they do not wish to witness the presence of those they find disagreeable, as Theodoret observes.

Chrysostom adds that God's apparent abandonment and turning away of His face reflects profound care. He does this to draw us nearer to Himself, akin to how one who is deeply attached to another may momentarily forget the beloved's face out of disdain, not in true exclusion from thought, but with a desire to reconcile and bring that beloved closer.

Hesychius of Jerusalem

5th centuryChurch Father

The absence of eternal life, even if only for a moment, represents a grave situation. It signifies death and the forfeiture of immortality.

Cassiodorus the Senator

6th centuryChurch Father

The visage of Christ anticipates the manifestation of Christ, whom He perceives spiritually. It is through His countenance that He reveals Himself to earthly eyes, and He who descends from heaven to bestow salvation upon the world was justly sought by this holy individual, conveying a universal longing.

Eusebius of Caesarea

4th centuryTeacher of the Church

The countenance of the Lord radiates brilliance, embodying a divine force devoted to righteous deeds. Those who share in this light become enlightened, akin to basking in the sun's rays. However, when one deviates from this path, the soul, deprived of illumination, descends into shadow, as the mind's eye perceives no truth. When the soul persists in transgression and is further engulfed by obscurity, the presence of the Lord withdraws from it.

Irenaeus (Klementjewsky)

18th centuryCommentator

Although David faced slander and was perceived by people as having incurred God's anger, akin to Saul's wrath, his lament arises not merely from public opinion but from his personal distress. He feels as though God has forgotten him—not due to a fading faith or a complete withdrawal of grace, but because enduring prolonged hardship can lead one to doubt divine assistance. In moments of suffering, our human reasoning and senses may fail to recognize God’s care, yet it is through faith that we comprehend His unseen care. Thus, David, confronted with his circumstances, might have felt abandoned by God. Nevertheless, even amid these trials, he utilized the light of faith to pierce through the obscured judgments of God.

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Although he perceived no source of hope through human understanding, he boldly petitions, "How long, O Lord, will you forget me forever? How long will you hide your face from me?" This very cry affirms that his faith elevates him above despair, placing his trust in God for salvation. Without such belief, how could he have directed his sighs and pleas to the Lord? This illustrates how we ought to contend with our trials, recognizing that our struggles indicate a need to conquer the despair that tempts us, much like David, who, despite his physical frailty, sought God earnestly, reconciling within himself the conflicting emotions he experienced.

Ireneus (Orda)

19th centuryCommentator

This psalm could have been composed by David during a later period of persecution from Saul. After many years, the anticipated victory over his adversaries, which he sought from God, had yet to be realized. At times, doubt may have seeped into David's heart, leading him to ponder whether the Lord had truly forgotten him (cf. Ps. 6). This sorrowful contemplation gives rise to the question: how long will this complete state of abandonment persist? The psalmist formulates various strategies to escape his plight, yet none succeed, which in turn brings him grief (v. 2). He accumulates thoughts like treasures in his heart; his distress is such that he feels close to death, as he expresses a desire to “sleep in death”—a state he attributes to the Lord having turned His face from him (v. 1).

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In light of this, he earnestly calls upon God to once again gaze upon him and illuminate his eyes, restoring their vitality, thus delivering him from the brink of death (1 Samuel 14:27). He fears that if his situation does not change, his enemies will triumph in his downfall (v. 5). Yet, even in his dire straits, the psalmist maintains hope in the Lord (v. 6). He finds assurance in his prayers, confident that a day will come when he will rejoice in his deliverance and offer praise to the Lord. It is worth noting that the words of verse 6—“and I will sing unto the name of the Lord above”—are absent in the Hebrew text.

Palladios (Pjankov)

19th centuryCommentator

How long, O Lord, will You overlook me forever? In times of delay in assistance, Blessed Theodoret describes the state of forgetfulness as problematic; he implores us not to be wholly stripped of God's care. St. Chrysostom astutely observes that when God allows a sinner to face their own consequences, it serves a purpose: through such trials, they may come to recognize their own frailties and, in their repentance, seek to become more deserving of divine mercy. This very abandonment showcases God's profound love and concern for us, as it aims to draw us closer to Him. Thus, David, in asking, ‘How long shall the Lord forget me forever?’ conveys not a sense of despair but rather a glimmer of hope.

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His words, “How long,” imply a belief that the Lord will eventually alleviate his afflictions—something he further articulates in verse 7 with the question, How long will You turn Your face away from me? This phrase reflects the feelings of those who, in their anger, refuse to look at those who have wronged them. In essence, it conveys the plea: how long, O Lord, will You be displeased with me and withdraw Your grace? With the Hebrew sentiment: ‘how long, O Lord, will You forget me forever? How long will You hide Your face from me?’

Psalter with Commentaries (Cave Monastery in Kiew)

19th centuryCommentator

The cries of Adam and other righteous individuals ascend to God, seeking understanding for the delayed arrival of Christ the Savior. This longing is eternal. The countenance of God the Father is embodied in Christ the Lord. The prophet calls out to God, asking for the revelation of the Son, Christ the Lord, to bring salvation to humanity. However, God turns away when He permits suffering and trials to afflict mankind due to sin, intending to refine and bless him with divine grace. Consequently, the saints endured long years in solitude, dedicating themselves to toil and prayer.

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