The Church Fathers on this verse

Revelation 17:15Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

And he said to me: The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples and nations and tongues.

Douay-Rheims

και λεγει μοι τα υδατα α ειδες ου η πορνη καθηται λαοι και οχλοι εισιν και εθνη και γλωσσαι

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

6 Church Fathers comment on this verse

Cyprian of Carthage

3rd centuryChurch Father

Christ, teaching and showing that the Gentile people enters the place which the Jews lost, while we later acquire it by the merit of faith, changed water into wine.

That is, He indicates that the peoples should be more fully mingled and come to the wedding of Christ and the Church at the time when the Jews are absent.

For divine Scripture explains in the Apocalypse that water signifies peoples, saying: "The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues."

We clearly understand that this very thing is contained in the Mystery of Communion. Since Christ bore us all, and also bore our sins, we see that the peoples are understood by the water, while the Blood of Christ is certainly signified by the wine.

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When water is mixed with wine in the chalice, the peoples are united with Christ. The believing people is joined and coupled with Him in whom it has believed.

This union and bond of water and wine is so mingled in the Lord's cup that this mixture cannot be separated from itself. Therefore nothing can separate the Church from Christ.

The Church means the people who are in the Church and who faithfully and steadfastly persevere in what they have believed. Thus undivided love is always kept and remains.

As only water cannot be offered in the consecration of the Lord's cup, so neither can only wine be offered. If someone offers wine alone, the Blood of Christ remains without us.

If he offers water alone, the peoples remain without Christ. But when both are mixed and bound to each other in inseparable unity, then the spiritual and heavenly Mystery is fulfilled.

Caesarius of Arles

6th centuryChurch Father

The harlot is a luxurious life made up of robberies and pleasures. Therefore he said that they would hate the harlot, because pleasure-loving and proud men, greedy and arrogant, not only persecute the saints but also abide in hatred themselves.

They hate in another way too, those in whom what is written is fulfilled: "He who loves violence hates his own soul." And further: "They will make her desolate and naked."

For these men, through the wrath of God and the just judgment by which they are abandoned by Him, lay waste the world while they are subject to it and use it unjustly.

"And they will eat her flesh," because, according to the Apostle, they bite and devour one another (cf. Gal 5:15).

Gregory the Great

6th centuryChurch Father

The people are signified by waters because, in life, they have a voice from the disturbance of the flesh and daily flow toward mortality.

Oecumenius

6th centuryChurch Father

It is said: "The waters on which the harlot sits are peoples and multitudes," obviously those over whom the city exercises dominion. How, then, will Rome be made desolate by the kings? For this, as we have understood, is described in the book of Revelation.

Perhaps they will contend for it in battle as for a queen ruling over a strong and populous land that pays tribute. Therefore, in the war for Rome, it must happen that, lying out as the prize of victory, it will suffer from all.

It will be subjected to burning and desolation. It is said: "For God has put into their hearts to do their will." By God's permission this will be accomplished by those who oppose it and desire to seize it.

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"He put into their hearts to accomplish one purpose, and to give their kingdom to the beast." As though by a single act of will, they will be handed over into subjection to Antichrist, as was said before, "until the words of God are fulfilled."

This means that they will be subjects of the beast until the punishment appointed for Antichrist overtakes him, and what God spoke against him through the prophets is accomplished.

Wishing to make still clearer that this refers to the city in question, John continues: "And the woman whom you saw is the great city which reigns over all."

Borodin P.M.

19th centuryChurch Father

Unrestrained and luxurious life bore the fruits that became the cause of Babylon's fall.

Philaret of Moscow (Drosdow)

19th centuryChurch Father

The word of God sometimes presents water as an image of human society, as it is written in the Seer: "the waters are peoples and multitudes" (Rev 17:15). Let us use this image to draw truth from it.

Water, though there is silt in it, appears clean when the silt lies at the bottom. But when some irregular movement raises the silt upward, all the water, clean until then, loses the appearance of purity and becomes turbid.

So also human society, though it contains a portion of bad people, appears clean, comely, and prosperous when this unhappy element lies at the bottom.

This is when bad people, rightly brought low in common opinion, do not attain power, honor, or influence over others.

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But when the bad element rises upward, and bad people attain power, honor, and influence over others, then they disturb even the clean water, and the good people as well.

By their influence they lead them into temptation, or by their power they subject them to difficulties and sorrows. As they grow in strength, they harm the whole society.

The author of Proverbs spoke of this: "When the righteous are praised, the people rejoice; but when the impious rule, men groan" (Prov 29:2).

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Greek text, 19 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. Καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  2. λέγει
    legei
    I say
    G3004 · λέγω
  3. μοι
    moi
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  4. Τὰ
    ta
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  5. ὕδατα
    hydata
    water
    G5204 · ὕδωρ, ὕδατος
  6. ἃ
    ha
    who
    G3739 · ὅς, ἥ
  7. εἶδες
    eides
    I know
    G1492 · εἴδω
  8. οὗ
    hou
    where
    G3757 · οὗ
  9. ἡ
    hē
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  10. πόρνη
    pornē
    a prostitute
    G4204 · πόρνη
  11. κάθηται
    kathētai
    I sit
    G2521 · κάθημαι
  12. λαοὶ
    laoi
    a people
    G2992 · λαός
  13. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  14. ὄχλοι
    ochloi
    a crowd
    G3793 · ὄχλος
  15. εἰσὶν
    eisin
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  16. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  17. ἔθνη
    ethnē
    a race
    G1484 · ἔθνος
  18. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  19. γλῶσσαι
    glōssai
    the tongue
    G1100 · γλῶσσα