The Church Fathers on this verse

Romans 7:17Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Now then it is no more I that do it: but sin that dwelleth in me.

Douay-Rheims

νυνι δε ουκετι εγω κατεργαζομαι αυτο αλλ η οικουσα εν εμοι αμαρτια

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

8 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

Those who rise up against the flesh and exclude it from the number of God's creations base themselves on these words. What can we say to this? The same as we said recently when discussing the law. Just as there he attributes everything to sin, so also here. He did not say that the flesh does this. Quite the contrary: "It is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me." If he says that no good thing dwells in him, this is still not an accusation against the flesh. The fact that no good thing dwells in the flesh does not prove that it is evil in itself. We agree that the flesh is lower and more deficient than the soul. But it is not opposed to it, nor hostile, nor evil. As a lyre is subject to the musician and a ship to the helmsman, so the flesh is subject to the soul.

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The lyre and the ship are not opposed to those who govern and use them. Rather, they are wholly in harmony, though not equal in dignity to the craftsman. Likewise, when someone says that the art is not in the lyre or the ship, but in the helmsman and the lyre-player, he does not dishonor those objects. He shows the difference between the craftsman and the art. So also Paul, when he said, "In my flesh no good thing dwells," did not dishonor the body, but showed the soul's superiority. For it is the soul that directs everything, including the art of steering a ship or playing a lyre. Paul shows the same here, assigning the ruling role to the soul. Having divided man into these two halves, soul and body, he affirms that the flesh is more irrational, lacking understanding, and is something governed, not governing. The soul, however, is wise and able to know what should and should not be done. Yet it does not have enough strength to govern the horse as it wishes. In this, the blame may belong not to the flesh alone, but also to the soul. The soul knows what should be done, but does not put into action what it recognizes. "For to will," says the Apostle, "is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find." Here again, by saying "I do not find," he means not ignorance or doubt, but the assault and snares of sin. Expressing this more clearly, he added: "For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I do. But if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me" (Rom 7:19-20).

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

He did not say that the flesh does this, but sin, that is, the tyranny of sin that carries me away. What then are those babbling about who arm themselves against the flesh and exclude it from the number of God's creations? They object: the Apostle says, "In me, that is, in my flesh, no good thing dwells." Listen to the sense in which he said this. Man consists of two parts, soul and flesh. Of these, the first, the soul, rules everything, while the flesh is a servant. Therefore the expression "in my flesh no good thing dwells" means this: the good is not in the power of the flesh, but in the power of the soul. Whatever the soul chooses, the flesh does. It is just as if someone said that harmonious sound is not in the lyre, but in the lyre-player. He does not dishonor the lyre, but shows the artist's superiority over the instrument.

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

He again turns the precision of contemplation toward the nature of the body and examines the force of the diseases naturally present in it. The impulses that lead away into every possible passion, and the accusations connected with a pleasure-loving life, have the flesh as their source. The disciple of the Savior assures us of this when he says, "Where do wars and quarrels among you come from? Is it not from your desires that war in your members?" (Jas 4:1).

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

This needs explanation and requires a broad exposition. After the transgression of the commandment, the body became mortal and received passionate movements into itself. Through them everything concerning the present life is accomplished. Desire is needed not only for food, but also for the begetting of children, agriculture, and the other arts. When there are no desires, none of this is done. Desire also helps us advance in virtue, for one who does not desire it does not endure the labors needed for it. It also produces divine love in us. Therefore the proper measure of desire is a fellow-worker of good deeds, while its excess produces incontinence.

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For this same desire makes men encroach upon others' marriages, desire what does not belong to them, plunder, dig up graves, dare murders, and do similar things. For this reason the God of all joined irascibility to desire, so that it might limit desire's excess. Yet irascibility too needs something to hinder its insatiability. Therefore, as we temper what is hot with what is very cold, and moderate what is too cold with heat, so God who created us placed in us these two passionate movements. They are directly opposed to one another. He taught us to limit the excess of each by the other. He set the mind over them, like a charioteer over young horses. He laid the yoke of servitude upon them, legislating that they bear it evenly. If desire should ever happen to stretch beyond measure, He commanded irascibility to be stirred up, so that it might rush forward and make the yoke even again. If irascibility should fall into the passion of excess, He ordered desire to be brought back into motion and to limit the excess of irascibility. Thus the mind governs when it is sober and chaste. But when it grows careless and lets the reins fall, it gives the horses freedom to run. It is carried along itself, and with them falls into pits and precipices. This is what the divine Apostle expressed here: "Now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me." By sin he means the servitude of the mind and the dominion of the passions. The mind itself does not do it, because it hates what is done. Rather, the dominion of the passions is active in this.

Gennadius of Constantinople

5th centuryChurch Father

Through all this Paul sets forth what the Master said in the Gospel: "The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak" (Mt 26:41).

Ivanov A.V.

19th centuryChurch Father

The Apostle depicts the state of the unregenerate man, in whom an inner struggle takes place between mind and will, between spirit and flesh. With man's fall, the will ceased to obey the suggestions of reason. Reason still preserved knowledge of the good, desires it, and strives toward it. Yet it does not have the power to move the will to perform what it wants. The voice of conscience, the inner arbiter of man's actions, is likewise too weak to govern and restrain man's activity. It is itself confused and irresolute, so that it is difficult even to follow its directions. The flesh, from being the instrument of the spirit, became its ruler. It drew even the spiritual capacities into seeking various means to satisfy its needs.

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In serving spiritual demands, it became weak and even hostile to them. The Mosaic Law, given to determine the action of the will, could only prove more clearly the inner division and weakness of fallen man. It also awakened in him a thirst for the help of grace. This law helped the natural law of man's conscience. By positive external punishments it restrained man's sinful inclinations, and by rewards it encouraged the fulfillment of the good. But the weaknesses of the flesh, the inborn inclinations, and acquired habits of sin became so customary and constant that the Apostle directly calls them, taken together, the law of sin. According to the chief place of their activity, he calls them the law of the flesh, the law of the members, which opposes the law of the mind, or conscience. The opposition of this law to the law of the mind is so strong that man does what he does not will. For what he wills, he does not find sufficient strength in himself. Therefore the Apostle cries out on behalf of all suffering mankind: "O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?" The Western Church, following the opinion of Augustine, Ambrose, and others, confirmed by the canons of the Council of Trent, applies the state of man described above to regeneration. Yet even among Western interpreters, some, for example Calmet, Allioli, and Bisping, rely on the opinions of Chrysostom, Theodoret, Theophylact, and other Eastern Fathers. They find it more consistent to see here the state of man before regeneration.

Michail Cheraskov

19th centuryChurch Father

In order to arouse as much as possible our aversion and hatred for sin, the Apostle paints a heavy picture of the violence sin works upon us. He also depicts the unnatural division that occurs in our nature because of sin: "I do not understand what I do. For what I will to do, that I do not do; but what I hate, that I do. But if I do what I do not will, I agree with the law that it is good. Therefore it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. According to the inner man I delight in the law of God. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin."

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

Now does not indicate time. It is a concluding particle, as we often use now in the same sense. It may be paraphrased thus: now you see, now it turns out, or simply, it turns out.

I approve the law. I desire what is lawful and hate what is lawless, yet I do everything contrary to this. It follows that I am not the one doing it. I am not the acting one here, but the one acted upon.

Someone else has taken possession of me. He takes me as though bound and leads me wherever he wishes, and I trail after him. Who is this? Sin dwelling in me.

Sin is personified because of the force of its attraction. Man is made as though without person because of his weakness toward sin and his readiness to fall into it. The Apostle seems to shift blame from man, as above he shifted it from the law.

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In fact, however, man always consents to sin of his own will. If he did not consent to sin, there would be no sin. In our own speech we often say: What can one do? I cannot manage myself.

We speak as though we were doing what we do from some necessity. Yet we know that we do it all willingly. So the Apostle's word does not affirm that sin is involuntary, nor does it deny its willing character.

Ordinarily, before sinning, a man does not want sin, and after sinning he does not approve it. But while he is sinning, he both wants sin and considers doing the sinful deed better than not doing it.

It seems as though someone from outside came, took his hands and feet, and even his soul with its thoughts, feelings, and desires, and committed the sin. In reality, sinful excitement truly does come upon him.

Yet the man himself sins, with his whole person, and only by willing consent to sin. One may only be perplexed over what mystery lies in sin. But man cannot be acquitted of guilt.

Let us repeat what was said before. Man is spirit, soul, and body. The norm of his life is life in the spirit under the action of the fear of God and conscience. Soul and body must be subject to it and spiritualized by it.

When in the fall man tore himself away from God and resolved to arrange his well-being by himself, he received selfhood and self-pleasing as a new principle of life.

Since the spirit by nature is detached from created things, and since the character of its life is self-sacrifice to God, selfhood could find no food for self-pleasing in it. It therefore turned to the soul and body.

The soul and body are usually moved by impulses of what is pleasant and useful. They have many needs. Each need multiplies many desires, according to the multitude of objects suitable for satisfying them.

Each need presents a special form of self-pleasing. The objects that satisfy them provide food for self-pleasing. Having descended into this realm, man entered a kind of disorderly, many-voiced crowd.

There everyone offers him what is his own, what is pleasant and agreeable to him. At the beginning of the fall, tasting the sweetness of self-pleasing, man himself raised this passion into the principle determining his activity.

Therefore, moving amid that crowd, as soon as he senses something pleasant offered to him, he immediately falls upon it. He is bribed by that sweetness of self-pleasing first received.

In such a mode of action, one does not look at whether the deed is right or wrong, but only at whether it is sweet. Therefore sinfulness lies here at the very root.

Everything done according to the principle of self-pleasing is sinful, although not every such deed, by kind, is contrary to righteousness. The unrighteousness here is that the demands of the spirit receive no attention at all.

These demands belong to the essential needs of human nature. In general they are not disputed, for they are present to consciousness. But in action they are not taken into account, because they give no food to the sweetness of self-pleasing.

Instead, they demand self-sacrifice. Thus fallen man would be sinful even if, in the outward form of his deeds, he did what was natural to soul and body by satisfying their needs.

In reality, however, his life is more unrighteous than this alone. It is also unrighteous because he measures the satisfaction of needs by sweetness, not by any higher standard. Therefore he always falls into excess.

It is unrighteous also because he determines the relation among needs, which should be satisfied more and which is more necessary, by no higher principle. He likewise chooses objects for satisfying them by the same sweetness.

From this comes disorder, which acts harmfully upon man and destroys itself. All this already greatly increases sinfulness. But this is still not all.

The spirit of the fallen man is selfhood: I myself. From this selfhood passions were born which proceed directly from selfhood and rest on nothing natural. Such are pride, envy, hatred, malice, greed, vainglory, and the like.

Selfhood seeks self-pleasing and can find it only in soul and body. Having descended into them, it entered there with the whole host of passions.

Even there, without this, many unrighteous things were possible. They lay in failing to preserve the measure of satisfying needs, their mutual relations, and the choice of objects for satisfying them.

But because the poison of the passions was poured into them, unrighteousness exceeded every measure. Under their influence everything there was distorted. The satisfaction of needs was turned into the satisfaction of passions.

It took an unnatural direction, destructive both for the one acting and for others. All this together is the sin dwelling in us.

It covers itself with the natural needs of soul and body. It is set in motion by the sweetness of self-pleasing and is directed by the passions.

It may be described thus: a self-centered, passionate, pleasure-loving, soul-and-bodily self-pleasing. Its offspring are many, but they usually keep silent. They are very like a band of robbers hidden in ambush.

Like robbers in ambush, or beasts in a den, they are hidden somewhere in us, as though they were not there. Yet the human spirit, even in the fallen man, is still alive and constitutes the norm of human life.

Therefore man usually stands on the side of the spirit. That is, he acknowledges the lawfulness of its demands and is not alien to the desire to act according to them. He praises the law as good.

But as soon as action according to the spirit is required, since the spirit is opposed to sin in all its described manifestations, the offspring of sin against which the proposed deed must be directed immediately rises up.

Together with it, all that is akin to it and radical rises up: self-pleasing, which seeks sweetness. A dispute and struggle occur. The spirit presents its reasons, while sin with its offspring displays its charms.

The demands of the spirit are detached from created sweetness. If they promise a good, it too is spiritual and detached. But sin gives tangible sweetness directly in the action contrary to the spirit's demand.

Therefore the man, who first chose sweetness as the principle determining his deeds, inclines toward the action that gives sweetness and commits sin.

After sin, he again listens to the spirit and condemns his own action. But when he again approaches some deed required by the spirit, he again yields to sin. He has been bribed beforehand by sinful sweetness.

So every sinner acts so long as he remains a sinner. In him is fulfilled what the Apostle said: I praise the law as good, but sin dwelling in me deceives me and draws me to lawless deeds, and I sin.

Oecumenius asks: How does sin contrive to do this? He answers: "It offers me sweetness in the deed before me, and thus deceives me into not remaining faithful to what I recognized as right and wanted."

Theodoret writes that when the Apostle speaks thus, "by sin he means the slavery of the mind, that is, the spirit, and the dominion of the passions. The mind, or spirit, does not itself perform the deed, because it hates what is done. Yet the dominion of the passions is active here."

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Greek text, 12 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. νυνὶ
    nyni
    now
    G3570 · νυνί
  2. δὲ
    de
    but
    G1161 · δέ
  3. οὐκέτι
    ouketi
    no longer
    G3765 · οὐκέτι
  4. ἐγὼ
    egō
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  5. κατεργάζομαι
    katergazomai
    I work out
    G2716 · κατεργάζομαι
  6. αὐτὸ
    auto
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  7. ἀλλὰ
    alla
    but
    G235 · ἀλλά
  8. ἡ
    hē
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  9. οἰκοῦσα
    oikousa
    I inhabit
    G3611 · οἰκέω
  10. ἐν
    en
    in
    G1722 · ἐν
  11. ἐμοὶ
    emoi
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  12. ἁμαρτία
    hamartia
    a sin
    G266 · ἁμαρτία