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Job 8:11Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Can the rush be green without moisture? or sedge bush grow without water?

Douay-Rheims

הֲיִֽגְאֶה־גֹּ֭מֶא בְּלֹ֣א בִצָּ֑ה יִשְׂגֶּה־אָ֥חוּ בְלִי־מָֽיִם׃

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Philippus

5th centuryChurch Father

Wildad observes that just as reeds and bulrushes cannot survive without water, so too, your former joy cannot persist without the nourishment of righteousness. Though it remains uncut and fresh, it ultimately withers before all other vegetation. Wildad notes that the blessed Job thrived like tender plants, yet prior to experiencing the enduring glory, he endured numerous trials, and the hand of God, which upholds all kingdoms, did not allow him to depart this life in peace or to transition to a perfect kingdom beyond. 'Therefore, since you have not lived in a manner to enter into rest after your days were completed, the scorching sun has caused you to wither before others, meaning before other sinners, who are frequently represented by the term herb. You have descended into anguish of the heart alongside the wicked.'

Gregory the Great

6th centuryChurch Father

Verse 11. Can a reed flourish without moisture? Does a reed thrive without water? Job 8:11. NEGATIVE INTERPRETATION The individuals whom Bildad likens to a "reed" and those he compares to a "bulrush" are made clear by his subsequent remarks.

Didymus the Blind

4th centuryTeacher of the Church

The teachings of ancient sages and early church fathers serve to guide future generations, as illustrated by Wildad through a parable. He notes that just as papyrus cannot flourish without water and reeds do not thrive without proper irrigation, so too is it impossible for an individual to yield meaningful results without embracing the most profound wisdom. Human endeavors can be likened to being nourished by divine Providence, akin to how plants require water; without this necessary support, they are swiftly and easily destroyed. Therefore, when someone encounters difficulties and subsequently experiences change, it is a result of Providence. If circumstances seem to have a purely human origin, they lack true foundation, since such matters fall outside the realm of divine governance.

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This echoes the splendid expression of the Psalmist: If the Lord does not build the house, in vain do they labour who build it (Psalm 126:1). Just as every plant withers before it absorbs water (cf. Job 8:12), the same principle applies to all vegetation. Thus, it can be asserted that everything in this life, whether big or small, is under the care of Providence; without its oversight, all things will wither away.

Ireneus (Orda)

19th centuryCommentator

Baldad, the second of Job's friends, presents the same misguided notion that Eliphaz previously voiced: that earthly joy arises solely from righteousness. He attempts to convince Job that his lament over his lost possessions and children is futile. If Job’s children have met their end, it surely must be due to their transgressions against God; otherwise, the righteous Lord would not have permitted their demise. However, Baldad asserts that if Job is indeed innocent and sincerely seeks God through prayer, he will be immensely blessed. An ancient song, born from the wisdom of the ancestors, reinforces Baldad's perspective.

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Just as the papyrus, which flourishes during the Nile's floods, quickly withers when the waters recede, the wicked, who seem to enjoy the pinnacle of earthly delights, will also meet their end unexpectedly. Therefore, Baldad insists that Job will not be forsaken by the Lord. He further contends that Job bears a dual guilt before God: for himself and for his offspring. This proposition undermines Job's last sliver of comfort—that he was just and a good father, deserving of knowing that his children were meant for a more favorable fate.

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