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Romans 11:4Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

But what saith the divine answer to him? I have left me seven thousand men that have not bowed their knees to Baal.

Douay-Rheims

αλλα τι λεγει αυτω ο χρηματισμος κατελιπον εμαυτω επτακισχιλιους ανδρας οιτινες ουκ εκαμψαν γονυ τη βααλ

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9 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” You may ask whether this applies to the present time. It applies fully.

By this it is proved that God habitually saves the worthy, even though the promise is given to the whole people.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

Someone could have objected to the Apostle: What are you saying, Paul? Do you place, in three thousand, five thousand, and a great multitude, that people which is likened to the sand and the stars?

Therefore he says that even in Elijah's time no more than seven thousand were saved. Yet Elijah did not know them. Now too, there are probably many who have believed.

If you do not know them, this is nothing new. Elijah did not know those either.

At the same time, by an unobtrusive turn of speech, he touches another subject. He shows that the murder they committed had long before been foretold from above.

So that they might not say, "We killed Christ as a deceiver," he asks: how then did your fathers kill the Old Testament prophets? Were they also deceivers? Did they boldly grieve you?

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But why did your fathers tear down the altars? Did the altars also offend them? And why did they seek to kill Elijah himself, who was zealous for the Jews and renowned for miracles?

If in those times, when there were so many wicked people, the Lord chose for Himself only seven thousand, as Scripture shows, that is, revelation and the word of God, then there is nothing new at all if He now chooses only the worthy. He explains this further below.

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

Very opportunely, as a kind of image of what happened to Israel, he brings forward the story of Elijah. For one can easily see, by likeness to the circumstances of that time, that Israel fell into drunken frenzy by its own fault.

When Ahab reigned over Samaria, Israel absurdly paid honor to the works of its own hands. Sacrifices and shrines were everywhere.

The adherents of God were in complete fear and endured such unbearable persecution that the prophets hid even in caves and clefts of the rocks (cf. 3 Kgs 18:13; Heb 11:38).

Then Elijah himself fled into the deep wilderness and fell down before God, saying, "They have destroyed Your altars. They have killed Your prophets. I alone am left, and they seek my life" (cf. 3 Kgs 19:10, 14).

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Yet at once he heard in answer: "I have kept for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal" (cf. 3 Kgs 19:18).

But then, God had not cast Israel into such terrible impious deeds. Rather, they themselves slipped, having given themselves over to their own madness.

So also now, in turn, when God the Father offered salvation through Christ to all and pushed no one away, they voluntarily fell into apostasy by rejecting the Redeemer.

Therefore God has not rejected His people (Rom 11:2). For, as I have said, He offered them participation in salvation through Christ, if only they had accepted it.

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

Thus God showed in me that He has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. The Apostle called the few who believed “the people,” bringing as confirmation of his words the seven thousand men who remained in the days of Elijah (1 Kgs 19:14, 18).

Ambrosiaster

4th centuryChurch Father

Paul shows that Elijah was not the only one who remained devoted to God and did not bow before idols. Many remained faithful to God, just as not a few Jews believed in Jesus.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

3 Kgs 19:14, 18. At that time also, says the Apostle, there were many thousands in Israel, and all were called Israel. Yet the God of all called Himself the God of seven thousand, and rejected all the rest.

"I have kept for Myself," He said, "seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal." The prophet did not know even this, and thought that in him alone the remnants of piety had been saved.

Therefore it is nothing new or strange if you also do not know those among you who have believed in the Savior, and whom the God of all calls His people.

The Apostle fittingly brought forward the great Elijah, who lodges a complaint against them. They not only killed the prophets, but also razed the altars to their foundations.

Suppose they were hostilely disposed toward the prophets. Of what could they accuse the divine altars? On the contrary, by the very thing they dared to do, they showed that they hated their God.

Michail Cheraskov

19th centuryChurch Father

In the seventh point, the holy Apostle Paul teaches that the Gentiles, called in place of the rejected Hebrews, must not boast before them. Rather, they must care for their own destiny, since God has not rejected all His people, nor forever (Rom 11:1-10).

To prove the first point, that not the whole people has been rejected, the Apostle says, "For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin" (Rom 11:1).

St. Chrysostom remarks on this: lest someone object to Paul's words, "I am an Israelite," saying, "Do you make up the people? And if you were called, does it follow that the whole people was called?"

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The Apostle added, "God has not rejected His people, whom He foreknew" (Rom 11:2). He speaks as if to say: with me there are three thousand, five thousand, and a great multitude of Israelites foreknown by God.

Indeed, referring to the example of the prophet Elijah, the Apostle goes on to say, "Do you not know what the Scripture says in the account of Elijah? How he pleads with God against Israel, saying: Lord, they have killed Your prophets.

"They have torn down Your altars. I alone am left, and they seek my life" (3 Kgs 19:14). "But what does the divine answer say to him? I have kept for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal" (Rom 11:2-4).

"So too at the present time," the Apostle adds, "there is a remnant according to the election of grace" (Rom 11:5). That is, some of the Jews received justification by faith in Jesus Christ.

Meanwhile the others were hardened and did not receive salvation, as the prophets had foretold concerning this (Rom 11:6-10).

Concerning the example of the prophet Elijah cited by the Apostle, St. Chrysostom notes: "If the Apostle had wished to prove only that few constitute the people properly belonging to God, he would have said only that in Elijah's time seven thousand remained.

"But so that the Jews might not say, 'We killed Christ as a deceiver and persecute the Apostles as impostors,' the Apostle cites the whole testimony, which says: 'Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars.'

"This meant that, just as then they killed not false prophets but true ones, so now they killed not a false savior but the true Savior. And they persecute not impostors, but true preachers."

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

In explaining the position of the Hebrews in relation to Christianity, the Apostle shows that many of them turned away from God, but not all. For example, the Apostle Paul himself was a Hebrew, and yet, by God's mercy, he was not rejected.

Many other believers from among the Hebrews were also saved. Yet they were saved not by their own works, but by grace. The essential property of grace lies first of all in its independence from works.

In comparison with the whole Hebrew people, the believers are few. They are the same kind of remnant as existed under the prophet Elijah. He already thought that he alone remained a believer, but God showed him that there were still up to seven thousand.

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No smaller number of Hebrews had been converted to Christ at the time when the Apostle wrote this epistle.

Thus one can in no way say that the Lord rejected His people. This is especially so because, from the Apostle's point of view, God's people cannot mean Israel alone.

It means all who have entered the people of God by the election of grace. This does not exclude the Gentiles. Nor does it include only proselytes who turned to the Lord by accepting the Law of Moses.

It also includes those who entered directly, by receiving the spirit and teaching of the Gospel.

Their conversion and justification were accomplished chiefly by the gift of grace, and not by works. For if works were involved, grace would no longer be a gift given without merit.

And if works gave salvation, they would rise above their proper significance. In that case one could ascribe to them a power they do not possess, and which belongs only to grace.

Therefore all who direct their gaze toward grace must turn it away from works. For where grace is present, the works of the Law are no longer works, that is, they have no saving significance.

In the words of verse 6, the Apostle expresses one of his constant thoughts. He unfolds it both in this epistle and in others. Therefore it is not surprising that, despite its depth and richness, he expressed it so briefly.

Explaining its meaning, St. John Chrysostom says: "By the words, 'So too at the present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace,' he makes clear that those seven thousand were also saved by grace.

"The same is seen from the words, 'I have kept for Myself.' By this God shows that He Himself accomplished the greater part of the work.

"But if it is by grace, you say, why are we not all saved? Because you yourselves do not want it. For grace, even though it is grace, saves those who desire it.

"It does not save those who do not desire it, who turn away from grace, who constantly rise up against it and resist it."

Then, addressing Christians from among the Gentiles, St. John Chrysostom added: "Therefore let us thank God that we have become numbered among those being saved.

"When we could not be saved by works, we were saved by God's gift. Let us witness our gratitude not by words only, but also by deeds and actions that accord with gratitude.

"For gratitude is complete when we do what serves God's glory, and when we avoid the things from which we have been delivered."

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

(cf. 3 Kgs 19:14, 18). The Apostle speaks as though saying: what you now see taking place before your eyes is very like what happened in the time of the prophet Elijah.

Then, seeing visibly around him no true piety in anyone, he complained to God: all have turned aside into impiety. I alone am left.

And the Lord said to him: no, not all. I have among them seven thousand men faithful to Me and turning away from idols.

Then the king, the nobles, all the authorities, and everyone one might look upon were fighting against God. Yet among them God had seven thousand true worshippers of His.

So it is now. Our kings, the rulers of the people, the high priests, the learned, and the whole people, if considered as a whole, fight against God.

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They resist Christ the Lord and persecute and kill His Apostles. Yet among this same people, in every place, there are those who sincerely believe in the Lord.

They cleave to Him with all their heart and serve Him with all their soul. These, properly speaking, are the people of God.

They are God’s own, preserved by Him for Himself, foreknown before, and now called. Through the calling they have been chosen from the people.

As then only those seven thousand were God’s own, while all the rest were strangers to Him, so now the whole people, when viewed as a whole, is alien to Christ and our God.

Only these believers are His own. They seem to vanish amid the common mass of the people, yet in fact they constitute the true people of God.

Blessed Theodoret writes: "As then, out of countless thousands, only seven thousand remained free from impiety, so now the unbelievers are more numerous, while those who have believed and benefited from divine grace are fewer."

The force of the comparison between these circumstances lies in this. Then the whole people as a whole fought against God, while the seven thousand hidden among them honored God, and God called them His own.

So now the whole people as a whole fights against Christ. But the believers moving among them believe in Christ and worship Him. These are the very ones whom God has as His own.

This remnant has come into being according to God’s election. God chose and chooses it from the midst of the people by the gospel, by faith, and by grace.

From this everyone should conclude that all now taking place is in harmony with the will and intentions of God and is not contrary to His promises. Therefore it cannot be said that God has rejected His people.

Chrysostom explains at length other features of similarity in these circumstances. "The meaning of these words is this: God has not rejected the people. For if He had rejected them, He would have received no one.

But if He received some, then He did not reject them. Yet if He did not reject them, you say, does that mean He received all? By no means.

For even in Elijah’s time no more than seven thousand were saved. And now, besides those who believe openly, there are probably many who have believed secretly.

It is not surprising if you do not know them. The prophet Elijah, so great a man, did not know this either. But God was ordering His own affairs, though the Prophet did not know it.

So also now He secretly orders His work of faith. Notice the Apostle’s prudence, how, while proving what he had set out to prove, he imperceptibly increases the guilt of the Jews.

He recalled this whole testimony in order to reveal their ingratitude more solemnly and to show that they have been such from ancient times.

If he had not had this intention, but wished only to prove that not many constitute the people, properly God’s own, he would have said only that in Elijah’s time seven thousand remained.

But now he brings the whole testimony from the beginning, because he strove in every way to prove that the Jews’ actions toward Christ and the Apostles are not at all strange or new.

They are customary for them and have become their habit. So that they might not say, we killed Christ as a deceiver and persecute the Apostles as seducers, the Apostle brings forward a testimony.

In it it is said: Lord, they have killed Thy prophets and dug down Thy altars. This meant that then they killed not false, but true Prophets.

So now they killed not a false, but the true Savior, and persecute not seducers, but true preachers.

But the Apostle, so as not to grieve them too much by his word, does not express this openly. He presents another reason for bringing this testimony.

It is as though he brings it not chiefly in order to reproach them, but with the aim of proving something else, namely that not many properly constitute the people of God.

Meanwhile he deprives them of every excuse for the deeds that preceded, the crucifixion of the Lord and the persecution of the Apostles.

See how the reproof gains special force from the person who reproves. It is not Paul, nor Peter, nor James, nor John who reproves.

It is the one whom the Jews admired more than any other, the head of the Prophets and friend of God. What then does he say?

Lord, they have killed Thy prophets and dug down Thy altars. I alone am left, and they seek my life.

What could be more savage than such ferocity? They ought to have prayed over sins already committed, but instead they intended to kill yet another Prophet.

And this was not during famine, but when fruitfulness had already come. All this makes them completely without excuse.

But as it was then, so they act now. When the demons have been put to shame and the power of God has been manifested in Christ Jesus, they dare this crime against Him.

They pass from murders to murders and put to death the teachers and correctors of their morals. What can they say against this reproof in their own defense?

Were those Prophets also deceivers? Did they not know where they came from? They grieved you, but they spoke what was profitable.

Understand the same concerning the Apostles. And the altars? Did the altars also grieve them? Did they also offend?

It is evident that they did all this because they fought against God; see Blessed Theodoret. Such examples of stubbornness and evil disposition the Jews always displayed.

Therefore Paul also says elsewhere, writing to the Thessalonians: you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews, who killed the Lord and His prophets, and drove us out, and did not please God, and opposed all men (cf. 1 Thess 2:14-15).

Likewise here he says that the Jews dug down the altars and killed the Prophets, in order to show that they always resist God.

But what does the divine answer say to him? I have left for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.

You ask whether this applies to the present time. It applies very much. By this it is proved that God always customarily saves the worthy, although the promise was given to the whole people.

The Apostle proved the same above when he said: though the number of the sons of Israel be as the sand of the sea, the remnant shall be saved. And again: if the Lord of Sabaoth had not left us a seed, we would have become like Sodom.

He proves the same here. Therefore he added: so then, at the present time also, there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

See how each word in the Apostle retains its force, expressing both the grace of God and the irreproachability of those being saved. By the word election the Apostle showed the dignity of those being saved.

By the word grace he indicated the gift of God."

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Greek text, 16 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. Ἀλλὰ
    alla
    but
    G235 · ἀλλά
  2. τί
    ti
    who
    G5101 · τίς
  3. λέγει
    legei
    I say
    G3004 · λέγω
  4. αὐτῷ
    autō
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  5. ὁ
    ho
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  6. χρηματισμός
    chrēmatismos
    an oracle
    G5538 · χρηματισμός
  7. Κατέλιπον
    katelipon
    I leave behind
    G2641 · καταλείπω
  8. ἐμαυτῷ
    emautō
    of myself
    G1683 · ἐμαυτοῦ
  9. ἑπτακισχιλίους
    heptakischilious
    seven thousand
    G2035 · ἑπτακισχίλιοι
  10. ἄνδρας
    andras
    a male human being
    G435 · ἀνήρ
  11. οἵτινες
    hoitines
    whosoever
    G3748 · ὅστις, ἥτις
  12. οὐκ
    ouk
    no
    G3756 · οὐ
  13. ἔκαμψαν
    ekampsan
    I bend
    G2578 · κάμπτω
  14. γόνυ
    gony
    a knee
    G1119 · γόνυ
  15. τῇ
    tē
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  16. Βάαλ
    baal
    Baal
    G896 · Βάαλ