The Church Fathers on this verse

1 Timothy 6:5Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Conflicts of men corrupted in mind and who are destitute of the truth, supposing gain to be godliness.

Douay-Rheims

διαπαρατριβαι διεφθαρμενων ανθρωπων τον νουν και απεστερημενων της αληθειας νομιζοντων πορισμον ειναι την ευσεβειαν αφιστασο απο των τοιουτων

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The Church Fathers on this verse

13 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

"Empty disputes" means idle occupations or empty arguments. Or he understands "empty disputes" in this way: just as sheep infected with scab transmit their sickness to healthy sheep when they come into contact with them, so do these evil men.

"And estranged," he says, "from the truth, who think that piety is a means of gain." Do you see what he says disputes produce? Shameful greed, ignorance, and pride. Yes, pride too is born from ignorance.

"Withdraw," he says, "from such men." He did not say, Go there, but, withdraw, that is, turn away. "Reject a heretic after the first and second admonition" (Tit 3:10).

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He shows that they are such not so much from ignorance as from sloth, which leads them into ignorance. Indeed, how can you persuade people who dispute for money? You will not persuade them otherwise unless you give again. Yet even by this you will not satisfy their thirst for gain. "The eye of the covetous man is not satisfied with any portion" (Sir 14:9).

Therefore one must turn away from them as from the incorrigible. If he commands one who had an extreme necessity to enter the contest not to go there and not to entangle himself with them, much more does he command this to us, who are learning and stand among the disciples.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

"Empty disputes" (παραδιατριβαί). Idle talk was usually called pouring from empty into empty, διατριβή. Or the word is used because, as mangy sheep infect healthy ones with their disease when they rub against them, so those who teach otherwise rub against others by their conversations, παρατριβόμενοι, and corrupt them.

"Among men corrupted in mind, estranged from the truth, who think that piety is a means of gain." Do you see that word-battles give birth to shameful greed? And rightly so. These disputants draw a greater number of disciples to themselves, make use of them, and strive ever more in disputes, so as to attract them to themselves more and more.

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"Withdraw from such men." He did not say, grapple with them and fight, but, withdraw, that is, after the first and second admonition (Tit 3:10). For when and by what means can those who fight for profit and money be persuaded? Therefore withdraw from those people who are incorrigible.

Gregory the Theologian

4th centuryChurch Father

Paul, the preacher and introducer of the shortened word (Rom 9:28), teacher and disciple of fishermen, calls everything excessive and elaborate in speech by this name: word-strife. It would be good if those of whom we speak were also somewhat skilled in deeds. The Synodal translation, “for He finishes the matter and will quickly decide it in righteousness,” departs from the original. The Church Slavonic translation is more exact: “for He completes and shortens the word in righteousness.”

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

They corrupt the minds of men by producing an unlawful teaching. They are deprived of the truth, and they have turned the righteousness of God, that is, the true preaching about God, into a kind of trade. But avoid them, lest their love of gain attach itself to you.

Jerome of Stridon

4th centuryChurch Father

Therefore the Apostle speaks about all of us. Christ is poor; let us be ashamed. Christ is humbled; let us be ashamed. Christ was crucified and did not begin to reign. Christ was crucified in order to reign. He conquered the world, not in pride, but in abasement. He struck the devil, not laughing, but weeping. He did not beat with whips, but was beaten. He received a blow on the cheek and did not strike back. Therefore let us also become like our Lord.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

"If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the teaching according to piety, he is puffed up, knowing nothing, but is diseased about disputes and word-battles."

One must not depart from the Master's commands. For slaves who dare to transgress these commands and follow their own thoughts do not know their duties at all. They serve only conceit.

"From which come envy, strife, blasphemies, evil suspicions, evil conversations of men corrupted in mind and deprived of the truth, supposing that piety is gain."

Those who have departed from the truth and follow their own thoughts attempt to teach what is improper. After this come quarrel and envy. From quarrel they dare to blasphemy, and with the loss of faith evil suspicions are born.

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From this there arises a kind of destructive disease that infects those nearby. This is what the words mean: "evil conversations of men corrupted in mind." For just as sick sheep grazing with healthy ones transmit their disease to them, so these men fill their neighbors with contagion.

Therefore the Apostle cries out to Timothy with a strict prohibition: "Withdraw from such men." And since they considered piety to be gain, he adds: "Great gain is piety with contentment" (v. 6).

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryChurch Father

"Evil conversations of men corrupted in mind and deprived of the truth."

Because of their occupation with disputes and word-battles, conversations arise among men corrupted in mind. This means spending time on what is unnecessary. In this case, conversation is the occupation of idle men with empty and harmful subjects.

Or he called them conversations because some draw others into the same evil and the same madness with which they themselves are infected. This is the same as the transmission of contagion. The metaphor is taken from mangy sheep, or other animals, which transmit their disease to healthy ones when they are together with them.

"Supposing that piety is gain."

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These people think that piety is a means of acquiring money. Therefore, having taken upon themselves the title of teachers of the faith, they collect money from their disciples. In this way they amass great wealth for themselves.

"Withdraw from such men."

You will not be able to influence by persuasion people who start disputes for money, and who do and endure everything for the sake of wealth alone. One must withdraw from such people, because they are incorrigible.

Clement of Alexandria

2nd centuryChurch Father

The intricate sophistical art in which the Greeks are so zealous represents only an imaginary power. It is entirely a collection of words, by which the truth is only obscured and a false opinion is presented as not false. Therefore the most glorious Apostle, expressing contempt for these empty arts that revolve only around words, had every reason to say this about the sophists.

Ignatij (Briantchaninow)

19th centuryChurch Father

Those who try to know Christ’s teaching not for its own sake, but with an ulterior earthly aim, for the sake of gain or honor, will never be able to receive true spiritual understanding. It is a gift of God, granted to the humble according to the measure of their faith, their purification from passions, and their self-denial.

Michail Cheraskov

19th centuryChurch Father

On what rules should lasting earthly well-being be built for those under pastoral care? (1 Tim 6:1–21). 1 Tim 6:1–5. A good-hearted mutual subordination of people of different classes and positions must be preserved. For example, slaves must be subject to masters, and especially to faithful masters, that is, Christians. On the contrary, one must by no means suppose that Christianity frees a person from all earthly obligations. This is what men of corrupted mind and pride suppose, as though piety served for profit.

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

In charging Timothy to teach according to what the Apostle has said, Paul commands him to withdraw from those who teach otherwise. They do not teach according to the Lord's doctrine, which proclaims the necessity of meekness and humility for all.

This is especially necessary for those deprived by the world, such as slaves. Yet false teachers stirred them toward pride, toward the quarrels and evils joined to it, and above all toward a wrong idea of Christian piety, that is, faith.

They presented it as a material upheaval for the sake of outward advantages. These could especially interest, on one side, the poorest people, such as slaves, and on the other side, the rich. They also interested the false teachers, who pursued their own selfish aims.

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Together with defining the chief aim of the false teachers, the Apostle also defines their other traits. These are ignorance of the truth, a passion for disputes and evil speech, and corruption of mind. All this makes them inaccessible to persuasion.

Therefore withdrawal from them must be considered best. By associating with them one may be infected, as people are infected by many diseases, even by madness.

"To be inflamed with pride happens not from knowledge, but from ignorance," says St. John Chrysostom, "because he who knows the teaching according to piety knows better than all how to humble himself."

"Those who have departed from the truth and follow their own thoughts attempt to teach what is improper. From this evil suspicions are born, and from them comes a kind of disease that infects those nearby. For as sick sheep grazing with healthy ones transmit disease to them, so these men fill their neighbors with contagion" (Blessed Theodoret).

"Where there is no faith," says Blessed Theophylact, "everything is sick. There only a war of words flares up, while the more skilled disputant strains to overthrow the other. Faith is an eye. He who has no eyes finds nothing, but only seeks. Disputants attract disciples to themselves, use them, and strive ever more in disputes, so as to draw them to themselves more and more."

"They are corrupted in mind because they are deprived of the truth. As possession of the truth is the health of the mind, so deprivation of the truth is its sickness and corruption. Deprivation of truth produces two evils in the mind: either the darkness of ignorance, or corruption by false belief. Darkness, the deprivation of light, causes numbness and even death. This is a great evil. Yet one may think of the numbed man that he will depart, come to himself, and live again. But one corrupted by false belief gives no such hope. He is damaged inwardly, and therefore can be restored to health only by divine power, especially by grace" (Bishop Theophan).

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

"Evil discussions," παραδιατριβαι. Διατριβη is the spending of time, the filling of it with some occupation. Hence it means conversations, reasonings, and speeches. Παραδιατριβη means all this in a bad sense: an empty spending of time, conversations that are not about the good and do not lead to the good, reasonings and speeches alien to truth. "Evil discussions" is an exact expression of this word.

Here he does not mean the dispute itself, but a feature of it, or its consequence and contact with it. A dispute conducted by teachers of other doctrine is an empty and harmful spending of time. It is harmful because, as was just said, it gives birth to evil suspicions.

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Διατριβη is from τριβω, "I rub." Those conducting a conversation rub against one another. But rubbing from a healthy person strengthens health, or at least does not disorder it. Rubbing from a sick person can communicate disease and infect. So it is here. Rub against a teacher of other doctrine in conversation, and you may be infected by his false teaching and fall ill with evil belief.

According to Saint Chrysostom, the words "evil discussions" have this meaning in the Apostle: "Just as sheep infected with mange communicate their disease to healthy sheep when they come into contact with them, so also do these evil men."

In Blessed Theodoret we read: "Those who have departed from the truth, the teachers of other doctrine, and who follow their own thoughts, attempt to teach what is improper. From this evil suspicions are born, and from them comes a certain destructive disease that infects neighbors. This is what the words 'evil discussions' signify. For as sick sheep grazing together with healthy ones communicate disease to them, so these men fill their neighbors with infection."

Oecumenius states directly: "Evil discussions are the transmission of the disease of evil dogmas, a metaphor taken from scabby sheep." Theophylact explains him: "As scabby sheep, rubbing among the healthy, infect them also with their disease, so teachers of other doctrine, rubbing through their conversations, παραδιατριβομενοι, with others, corrupt their minds and hearts with their evil belief."

Such fruit comes from them because they themselves are corrupt in mind. Such are all who do not approach the sound words of the Lord, unspoiled by perverse interpretation, and the doctrine piously held and preserved by the Church. Their mind, having accepted false principles and propositions, or dogmas, has become corrupt and has corrupted them.

They themselves are at fault. Why did they indulge their mind in taking up what was beyond its strength? They should have bowed it under the yoke of faith and made it obediently receive what was revealed and handed down, study it, and assimilate it. Instead, they allowed it to invent and compose the faith itself.

It became confused. But, having taken its own invention for unquestionable truth, it became corrupt itself and corrupted them. They became men corrupt in mind, infecting others with their own corruption. What else is to be expected from them? "A good man out of the good treasure brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things" (Mt 12:35).

They are corrupt in mind because they are deprived of the truth. This is the cause of the corruption of the mind. As the holding of truth is the health of the mind, so deprivation of truth is its sickness and corruption. Similarly, the keeping and preserving of the commandments is the health of the will, while turning aside from them is its sickness and corruption. Sympathy for the divine and heavenly, delight in it, and sweetness in it are the health of the heart. Deprivation of such sympathy, delight, and sweetness is its sickness and corruption.

Here the same thing happens as, for example, with berries. Leave them as they are, and they will soon spoil and rot. But fill them with sugar by boiling them in its solution, and they acquire power to resist corruption. So the mind, left as it is, soon spoils. Fill it with truth, and truth will communicate to it strength and power to resist every corruption.

Deprivation of truth produces two evils in the mind: either the darkness of ignorance or corruption by evil belief. Both are bad, but the latter is worse. Darkness, the deprivation of light, causes torpor and even death. Nothing living can live without light, material things without material light and spiritual things without spiritual light.

For the mind, truth is light. Without it, the mind grows numb or is numbed. This is a great evil. Yet for one who is numbed there may be hope that he will recover, come to himself, and live. But one corrupted by evil belief offers no such hope. He is inwardly and essentially damaged. Therefore he can be restored to the health proper to him by nature only by the power of God, who created natures. That is, he can be restored only by being remade through a special grace of God.

"Supposing that piety is gain." "Gain" is πορισμον. Πορος means having in abundance all the necessities of life. Πορισμος means the acquisition of these necessities and the means to that acquisition. By "piety" faith in general is understood. He says that they consider faith a means of acquisition and turn it into such a means.

This is the height of mental and moral corruption. Here there is no longer faith, and still less piety, or a heartfelt disposition in the spirit of faith. Meanwhile all their bustle concerns faith, and it is intense bustle, so that this matter does not pass without disputes.

Is this not where the disputes come from? As merchants dispute during a sale out of a desire to increase profit, so these teachers of other doctrine start disputes everywhere. Otherwise they will not be able to get anything and will have to go hungry.

"These disputants," writes Blessed Theophylact, "draw disciples to themselves, make use of them, and strive more and more in disputes so as to attract them more and more to themselves." This is, of course, so that they may acquire more from them.

"Withdraw from such." "He did not say, 'Engage them and wrestle,' but, 'Withdraw,' that is, after the first and second admonition (cf. Tit 3:10). For when and by what can those who fight for profit and money be persuaded?" (Blessed Theophylact).

"You will not persuade such men except by giving to them. Yet even by this you will not satisfy their thirst for gain. 'The eye of the covetous man,' says Scripture, 'is not satisfied with his portion' (cf. Sir 14:9). Therefore one must turn away from them as incorrigible" (Saint Chrysostom).

Tertullian

3rd centuryTeacher of the Church

It might be thought that I speak in this way from distrust of my cause, or from fear of entering the battle, if I did not have strong supports. Above all, I have the authority of the Apostle, who must serve us as the rule concerning faith.

He commands us to avoid profane empty talk and the contradictions of knowledge falsely so called (1 Tim 6:20). He also commands us to avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law, and to reject a heretic after the first and second admonition (Tit 3:9-10).

He forbids contests to such a degree that he nowhere commands us to seek out a heretic. This is probably because the latter is not a Christian, and because he should not be rebuked many times before two or three witnesses, as a Christian should be.

For this reason one should not dispute with him. Moreover, disputation about Scripture only wearies the head and exhausts the lungs.

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Greek text, 14 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. διαπαρατριβαὶ
    diaparatribai
    useless debate
    G3859 · παραδιατριβή
  2. διεφθαρμένων
    diephtharmenōn
    I destroy
    G1311 · διαφθείρω
  3. ἀνθρώπων
    anthrōpōn
    a man
    G444 · ἄνθρωπος
  4. τὸν
    ton
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  5. νοῦν
    noun
    the mind
    G3563 · νοῦς
  6. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  7. ἀπεστερημένων
    apesterēmenōn
    I deprive one of something
    G650 · ἀποστερέω
  8. τῆς
    tēs
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  9. ἀληθείας
    alētheias
    truth
    G225 · ἀλήθεια
  10. νομιζόντων
    nomizontōn
    I think
    G3543 · νομίζω
  11. πορισμὸν
    porismon
    a source of gain
    G4200 · πορισμός
  12. εἶναι
    einai
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  13. τὴν
    tēn
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  14. εὐσέβειαν
    eusebeian
    piety
    G2150 · εὐσέβεια