The Church Fathers on this verse

2 Corinthians 8:2Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

That in much experience of tribulation, they have had abundance of joy and their very deep poverty hath abounded unto the riches of their simplicity.

Douay-Rheims

οτι εν πολλη δοκιμη θλιψεως η περισσεια της χαρας αυτων και η κατα βαθους πτωχεια αυτων επερισσευσεν εις τον πλουτον της απλοτητος αυτων

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

7 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

Do you see his prudence? At first he says not what he wants, but something else, so that they would not think he began speaking about this deliberately.

Rather, beginning from another matter, he naturally comes to the needed subject. "In a great trial of affliction." He said the same in the epistle to the Macedonians.

"You became imitators of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Spirit." And further: "So that you became an example to all the believers in Macedonia and Achaia.

For from you the word of the Lord sounded forth, not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but in every place your faith toward God has gone forth" (1 Thess 1:6, 8).

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What do the words mean: "in a great trial of affliction they abound in joy"? They mean that both things were abundant among them: affliction and joy.

And what is very strange, such abundant delight sprang up for them from such affliction. Affliction, and the heaviest affliction, not only did not produce sorrow in them, but became for them a cause of gladness.

In saying this, the Apostle intended to teach the Corinthians to be courageous and unshaken in afflictions. For the Macedonians did not merely suffer affliction.

In affliction they became more proven through patience. Yet he does not say "through patience," but what is far higher than patience: joy.

And not simply joy, but an abundance of joy. For their joy was truly great and ineffable.

"Their deep poverty abounded in the riches of their liberality." Again, both things are in abundance.

As great affliction produced great joy and an abundance of joy, so great poverty gave birth to a great wealth of almsgiving. This very thing the Apostle expressed by saying, "abounded in the riches of their liberality."

For generosity is valued not by the measure of the gift, but by the disposition of those who give. Therefore he nowhere says, "the riches of what was given," but "the riches of their liberality."

The meaning of his words is this. Poverty not only did not prevent them from being generous, but even became the cause of abundance, just as affliction became the cause of joy.

The poorer they were, the more generous they became, and the more zealously they gave. Therefore he greatly marvels at them, because in such poverty they showed such generosity.

"Their deep poverty," that is, great and unspeakable poverty, revealed their simplicity. Yet he did not say "revealed," but "abounded."

Likewise, he did not say "simplicity," but "the riches of simplicity," that is, simplicity equal to their destitution. Or rather, they showed a far greater preponderance of generosity.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

"For in a great trial of affliction they abound in joy." That is, although they have many afflictions, through patience they become most proven. They did not fall, but rejoiced all the more.

They did not simply rejoice, but rejoiced abundantly. "And their deep poverty abounded in the riches of their liberality."

That is, just as their great affliction produced an abundance of joy, so also their great and extreme poverty not only did not prevent them from giving alms, but moved them still more to abound in riches.

He did not say, "in the riches of their giving," but "of their liberality," that is, of a sincere disposition toward generosity. For beneficence is valued not by the amount given, but by the disposition of those who give.

It is remarkable that in such poverty, since they had been cut off from their own countrymen, they showed such generosity.

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

Since the Apostle was concerned to fulfill the command entrusted to him by Simon Peter (Gal 2:10), that he should care for the saints, that is, for those who were undergoing persecution, and also for the baptized who were in Jerusalem, he wrote to them.

He wished them to become partakers of their blessing. He exhorted them by saying that the Macedonians, when persecution had been stirred up against them, willingly and with much entreaty begged us that the gift and fellowship of the ministry to the saints be given to us.

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Read, as in the Armenian and Greek, "that we should receive," and likewise in many minuscules, Gothic, and Slavonic. Other translations do not read this. There the passage sounds thus: "we ask from us the grace and fellowship of the ministry to the saints."

Ambrosiaster

4th centuryChurch Father

"And their deep poverty abounded in the riches of their liberality." The Apostle proclaims their service because, when their material means were weak, their spirit was found rich in service to the saints. They acted with a pure conscience, not to please men, but to please God.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

The Apostle spoke the highest word of praise to them. He showed that they are cheerful in affliction and rich in generosity amid extreme poverty. Storm-tossed by waves from every side, they rejoice as though carried by a favorable wind. Though they seldom possess what is necessary, they show magnanimity as though immersed in wealth.

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

After instructing the Corinthians in the doctrine of faith and preparing their hearts to follow the teaching they had received in deed also, the Apostle proposes that they collect alms for the poor Christians living in Jerusalem.

This work was required by the urgent need of some and by the moral progress of the Corinthians themselves. Yet the special occasion for this lesson was given by the example of the Macedonians.

The Apostle praises them for this, so that by it he might stir emulation in the Corinthians.

The Apostle called the work of mercy grace, because to be merciful is a gift of God. "Natural dispositions are only predispositions," says the Right Reverend Theophan.

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Grace, when it comes, sanctifies them and manifests them in their proper power, fullness, and perfection. The Macedonians were marked by broad generosity.

The grace of God sanctified their compassionate and sociable hearts, a Slavic trait. They were extremely poor, yet so virtuous that it would be fitting for the rich to be so generous.

They forgot themselves and cared only for others. Good courage in sorrows did not constrict their hearts. On the contrary, by joy it widened their hearts, opened their meager treasuries, and brought forth rich giving.

This picture must have appeared very stirring for the not-impoverished Corinthians to imitate. By the word "willing," he expresses this: we did not force them to it.

They do all this of themselves, so gladly, by their own good will. It is good when someone does good by direction and persuasion from another.

Yet certainly far better is the one who himself perceives what must be done. In such a person goodness lies in the depth of the heart.

St. John Chrysostom says: "Since the Apostle's chief aim was to bring the Corinthians to give alms from the free disposition of the heart, he dwells especially on this, saying, 'with much entreaty,' and then, 'they besought us.'

That is, we did not ask them, but they asked us. About what? 'That we should receive the grace and fellowship of the ministry to the saints.'"

"By ministry to the saints the Apostle means the commission given him by the holy Apostles in Jerusalem, to collect alms everywhere among the faithful for the poor Church of Jerusalem" (Theophan).

"See," says St. John Chrysostom, "how by the words, 'they gave themselves to the Lord,' the Apostle shows their extraordinary zeal for God.

They did not submit to God in part while serving the world in another part. Rather, they gave everything, and their whole selves, to Him alone, being united also with us in love.

Having given themselves to us, they did not do so according to human calculations, but according to the will of God. Notice the excellence of the Apostle's love.

When they asked and urged us to accept the alms, we, he says, were concerned for you, lest you fall behind them. For this reason we sent Titus, so that, stirred by him, you might emulate the Macedonians."

Titus had already been in Corinth and had begun the collection of alms among them, according to the first epistle.

Now the Apostle sent him so that his very presence would serve as an impulse for the Corinthians to give alms.

When mentioning almsgiving, the Apostle always calls it grace. Indeed, almsgiving is a great good and a gift of God.

The giving of alms likens us, as far as possible, to God Himself. This, above all, makes a human being truly human.

Therefore someone, presenting the image of a human being, said among other things: a great thing is man, and precious is the merciful man (Prov 20:6).

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

Who would not consider it extraordinary when people undergo many sorrows and yet rejoice, and rejoice abundantly? Their joy covers the sorrow, so that the latter cannot be seen because of the former.

This is one extraordinary thing. The other is that they are extremely poor, yet so generous that it would be fitting for the rich to be so generous.

The Apostle expresses this abstractly, and thereby his speech appears more impressive. "Their deep poverty," he says, he kata bathous ptocheia: deep poverty, want fallen so low that it can descend no lower.

And what does it give? It pours forth from itself rich generosity in abundance. This is as if a withered tree were giving abundant and juicy fruit. Is this not extraordinary?

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"The Apostle spoke to them the highest word of praise, for he showed that in affliction they are of good courage, and in extreme poverty rich in generosity.

Buffeted by waves on every side, they rejoice as though borne by a favorable wind. Rarely possessing necessities, they show magnanimity as though drowning in wealth" (Theodoret).

The Apostle does not later dwell on joy in afflictions, but only on the generosity of the Macedonians. Therefore we must suppose that he mentioned it only to exalt the virtue of generous giving.

A sorrowing person ordinarily has no concern for others. But with the Macedonians, he says, matters proceed differently. They forget themselves and care only for others.

Good courage in sorrows did not constrict their hearts. On the contrary, by joy it widened their hearts, opened their meager treasuries, and brought forth rich giving.

This picture must have appeared very stirring for the not-impoverished Corinthians to imitate.

St. Chrysostom says on this passage: "What do the words mean, 'in a great trial of afflictions, the abundance of their joy'? They mean that they had both affliction and joy in abundance.

And what is most wondrous, such affliction brought forth for them such abundant delight. Affliction, and the heaviest affliction, not only did not produce sorrow in them, but became for them the cause of rejoicing.

The Macedonians did not simply suffer affliction. In affliction they became more proven through patience, showing not only patience but what is far higher than patience: joy.

And not simply joy, but an abundance of joy. For their joy was truly great and ineffable. 'And their deep poverty abounded in the riches of their simplicity.'

Again, both things are in abundance. As great affliction produced great joy and an abundance of joy, so great poverty gave birth to a great wealth of almsgiving.

This very thing the Apostle expressed by saying, 'abounded in the riches of their simplicity.' For generosity is valued not by the measure of the gift, but by the disposition of those who give.

Therefore he does not say, 'the riches of what was given,' but 'the riches of their simplicity.' This means that poverty not only did not prevent them from being generous, but even became the cause of abundance.

So also affliction became the cause of joy. For the poorer they were, the more generous they became, and the more zealously they gave.

Therefore the Apostle greatly marvels at them, because in such poverty they showed such generosity. For their deep poverty, that is, great and unspeakable poverty, revealed their simplicity.

Yet he did not say 'revealed,' but 'abounded.' And he did not say 'simplicity,' but 'the riches of simplicity,' that is, simplicity equal to their destitution.

Or rather, they showed in themselves a much greater preponderance of generosity."

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Passages read together with this verse.

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Greek text, 23 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. ὅτι
    hoti
    that
    G3754 · ὅτι
  2. ἐν
    en
    in
    G1722 · ἐν
  3. πολλῇ
    pollē
    much
    G4183 · πολύς
  4. δοκιμῇ
    dokimē
    a trial
    G1382 · δοκιμή
  5. θλίψεως
    thlipseōs
    persecution
    G2347 · θλῖψις
  6. ἡ
    hē
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  7. περισσεία
    perisseia
    abundance
    G4050 · περισσεία
  8. τῆς
    tēs
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  9. χαρᾶς
    charas
    joy
    G5479 · χαρά
  10. αὐτῶν
    autōn
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  11. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  12. ἡ
    hē
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  13. κατὰ
    kata
    down from
    G2596 · κατά
  14. βάθους
    bathous
    depth
    G899 · βάθος
  15. πτωχεία
    ptōcheia
    beggary
    G4432 · πτωχεία
  16. αὐτῶν
    autōn
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  17. ἐπερίσσευσεν
    eperisseusen
    I exceed
    G4052 · περισσεύω
  18. εἰς
    eis
    into
    G1519 · εἰς
  19. τὸ
    to
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  20. πλοῦτος
    ploutos
    riches
    G4149 · πλοῦτος
  21. τῆς
    tēs
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  22. ἁπλότητος
    haplotētos
    simplicity
    G572 · ἁπλότης
  23. αὐτῶν
    autōn
    he
    G846 · αὐτός