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2 Corinthians 8:4Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

With much entreaty begging of us the grace and communication of the ministry that is done toward the saints.

Douay-Rheims

μετα πολλης παρακλησεως δεομενοι ημων την χαριν και την κοινωνιαν της διακονιας της εις τους αγιους

Greek (Byzantine text)

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7 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

Here is another excellence. "With much entreaty": here is a third and a fourth. "Begging us": here is also a fifth. "And being themselves in affliction and poverty": here is a sixth.

And a seventh: "they gave abundantly." Then, since his chief aim was to bring the Corinthians to give alms from a free disposition, he dwells especially on this, saying, "they begged us very persuasively."

We did not ask them, but they asked us. About what did they ask us? "To receive the gift and participation in the ministry to the saints."

Do you see how he again magnifies almsgiving, calling it by sacred names? Since the Corinthians were zealous for spiritual matters, he calls almsgiving "grace," so that they might have recourse to it.

He also calls it "fellowship," so that they might know they not only give, but also receive. "They," he says, "asked us to receive such ministry."

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

"They begged us with much entreaty." What am I saying? They themselves begged and implored us greatly. He says this in order to move the Corinthians not so much to give much, as to give willingly. For this reason he dwells on this subject. "To receive the gift and their fellowship in the service to the saints." Here the words are lacking: they begged us to receive this service. He said "gift" so that the Corinthians, who were zealous for spiritual gifts, might also run to almsgiving as to a gift, as was said above. He called it fellowship so that they might know that, by giving to others, they themselves receive.

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

Since the Apostle was concerned to fulfill the command entrusted to him by Simon Peter (Gal 2:10), that he should care for the saints, that is, for those who were undergoing persecution, and also for the baptized who were in Jerusalem, he wrote to them.

He wished them to become partakers of their blessing. He exhorted them by saying that the Macedonians, when persecution had been stirred up against them, willingly and with much entreaty begged us that the gift and fellowship of the ministry to the saints be given to us.

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Read, as in the Armenian and Greek, "that we should receive," and likewise in many minuscules, Gothic, and Slavonic. Other translations do not read this. There the passage sounds thus: "we ask from us the grace and fellowship of the ministry to the saints."

Ambrosiaster

4th centuryChurch Father

Paul says that their service was so devoted and sincere that it even exceeded their means. "For with tears they reproached me when I did not wish to receive it, since what they asked me to receive no longer seemed allowable." More was offered by them than their resources allowed, and later need might have moved them to regret their generosity. But since they showed themselves such that, with a pure soul, they rejected present prosperity for the promised future and were strengthened in faith, it is clear that Paul accepted their offering for the fruit of a good heart.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

For I bear witness concerning them that by zeal they surpassed their own strength and forestalled our exhortation. They begged us to allow them to care for the service to the saints. The Apostle called this service both grace and communion. By both names he teaches that the one who gives to another himself gains profit, because those who serve become sharers with those who receive the service.

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

After instructing the Corinthians in the doctrine of faith and preparing their hearts to follow the teaching they had received in deed also, the Apostle proposes that they collect alms for the poor Christians living in Jerusalem.

This work was required by the urgent need of some and by the moral progress of the Corinthians themselves. Yet the special occasion for this lesson was given by the example of the Macedonians.

The Apostle praises them for this, so that by it he might stir emulation in the Corinthians.

The Apostle called the work of mercy grace, because to be merciful is a gift of God. "Natural dispositions are only predispositions," says the Right Reverend Theophan.

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Grace, when it comes, sanctifies them and manifests them in their proper power, fullness, and perfection. The Macedonians were marked by broad generosity.

The grace of God sanctified their compassionate and sociable hearts, a Slavic trait. They were extremely poor, yet so virtuous that it would be fitting for the rich to be so generous.

They forgot themselves and cared only for others. Good courage in sorrows did not constrict their hearts. On the contrary, by joy it widened their hearts, opened their meager treasuries, and brought forth rich giving.

This picture must have appeared very stirring for the not-impoverished Corinthians to imitate. By the word "willing," he expresses this: we did not force them to it.

They do all this of themselves, so gladly, by their own good will. It is good when someone does good by direction and persuasion from another.

Yet certainly far better is the one who himself perceives what must be done. In such a person goodness lies in the depth of the heart.

St. John Chrysostom says: "Since the Apostle's chief aim was to bring the Corinthians to give alms from the free disposition of the heart, he dwells especially on this, saying, 'with much entreaty,' and then, 'they besought us.'

That is, we did not ask them, but they asked us. About what? 'That we should receive the grace and fellowship of the ministry to the saints.'"

"By ministry to the saints the Apostle means the commission given him by the holy Apostles in Jerusalem, to collect alms everywhere among the faithful for the poor Church of Jerusalem" (Theophan).

"See," says St. John Chrysostom, "how by the words, 'they gave themselves to the Lord,' the Apostle shows their extraordinary zeal for God.

They did not submit to God in part while serving the world in another part. Rather, they gave everything, and their whole selves, to Him alone, being united also with us in love.

Having given themselves to us, they did not do so according to human calculations, but according to the will of God. Notice the excellence of the Apostle's love.

When they asked and urged us to accept the alms, we, he says, were concerned for you, lest you fall behind them. For this reason we sent Titus, so that, stirred by him, you might emulate the Macedonians."

Titus had already been in Corinth and had begun the collection of alms among them, according to the first epistle.

Now the Apostle sent him so that his very presence would serve as an impulse for the Corinthians to give alms.

When mentioning almsgiving, the Apostle always calls it grace. Indeed, almsgiving is a great good and a gift of God.

The giving of alms likens us, as far as possible, to God Himself. This, above all, makes a human being truly human.

Therefore someone, presenting the image of a human being, said among other things: a great thing is man, and precious is the merciful man (Prov 20:6).

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

He paints the picture of the Macedonian churches' generous giving with ever brighter colors. They begged us with much entreaty, he says, to accept their gift.

It was as though they feared the Apostle, seeing their poverty, might refuse to accept it, or advise them to reduce it.

Or they begged with much entreaty from a deep feeling of humility, not regarding their gift as anything important. In its acceptance they saw a favor done to themselves, more than benefaction to others.

To act thus is proper to the humble and the not wealthy. The rich usually give from above, in a spirit of favor and patronage.

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"Please accept this" is not an entirely usual phrase in their language. St. Chrysostom says: "Since the Apostle's chief aim was to bring the Corinthians to give alms from the free disposition of the heart, he dwells especially on this.

He says, 'with much entreaty,' and then, 'begging us.' That is, we did not ask them, but they asked us. About what? 'That we should receive the grace and fellowship of the ministry to the saints.'

Do you see how he again magnifies almsgiving, giving it sacred names?"

By "the ministry to the saints," the Apostle means the commission given him by the holy Apostles in Jerusalem. He was to collect alms everywhere among the faithful for the poor Church of Jerusalem.

St. Paul fulfilled this ministry very zealously. The Macedonians knew this and were very zealous to take part in this ministry, which the Apostle calls fellowship in the ministry to the saints.

Theodoret remarks that "they begged the Apostle to allow them to care for the ministry to the saints."

They were moved to act so by confidence in the high value, before the eyes of God, of fellowship in such ministry. Therefore they also call it grace.

It is grace because to be merciful is a gift of grace, as was noted. It is also grace because almsgiving draws the mercy of God upon the merciful.

It is, as it were, a pledge of new grace from God. Those who give it offer their own insignificant thing with one hand, and with the other receive what is divine, incomparably greater and better.

"They," says St. Chrysostom, "while giving to others, receive themselves."

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Passages read together with this verse.

The original text

Greek text, 16 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. μετὰ
    meta
    with
    G3326 · μετά
  2. πολλῆς
    pollēs
    much
    G4183 · πολύς
  3. παρακλήσεως
    paraklēseōs
    exhortation
    G3874 · παράκλησις
  4. δεόμενοι
    deomenoi
    I request
    G1189 · δέομαι
  5. ἡμῶν
    hēmōn
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  6. τὴν
    tēn
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  7. χάριν
    charin
    grace
    G5485 · χάρις
  8. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  9. τὴν
    tēn
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  10. κοινωνίαν
    koinōnian
    participation
    G2842 · κοινωνία
  11. τῆς
    tēs
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  12. διακονίας
    diakonias
    waiting at table
    G1248 · διακονία
  13. τῆς
    tēs
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  14. εἰς
    eis
    into
    G1519 · εἰς
  15. τοὺς
    tous
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  16. ἁγίους
    hagious
    set apart
    G40 · ἅγιος