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Ecclesiastes 11:3Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

If the clouds be full, they will pour out rain upon the earth. If the tree fall to the south, or to the north, in what place soever it shall fall, there shall it be.

Douay-Rheims

אִם־יִמָּלְא֨וּ הֶעָבִ֥ים גֶּ֙שֶׁם֙ עַל־הָאָ֣רֶץ יָרִ֔יקוּ וְאִם־יִפּ֥וֹל עֵ֛ץ בַּדָּר֖וֹם וְאִ֣ם בַּצָּפ֑וֹן מְק֛וֹם שֶׁיִּפּ֥וֹל הָעֵ֖ץ שָׁ֥ם יְהֽוּא׃

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The Church Fathers on this verse

6 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

In Ecclesiastes, it is written: ‘If a tree falls to the south or to the north, it will remain where it falls’ (Ecclesiastes 11:3). St. John Chrysostom offers this interpretation: ‘When the prophet states: “If a tree falls to the north...”’ does God truly concern Himself with trees? The subject here is the soul. He continues, ‘The north symbolizes the hardness of heart that results in death, while the south represents love and repentance.’ Thus, where the soul lands after death, there it shall abide.

Jerome of Stridon

4th centuryChurch Father

You are to uphold the commandments laid out above so that the skies may shower their blessings upon you. No matter where you establish your home for the future, whether it be to the north or the south, your resting place upon death shall be there. Otherwise, as previously stated, “Thou shalt cast thy bread upon the face of the water, and give to every one that asketh of thee,” for just as full clouds bestow their bounty upon humanity, you too, like a tree, may endure for many seasons yet ultimately face the tempestuous winds of death, where you shall remain indefinitely, regardless of whether the final day comes with harshness or kindness.

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The Psalmist proclaims, “Thy truth is unto the clouds” (Psalm 35:6), and in Isaiah, God warns a wayward vineyard: “We will command the cloud, that it shall not rain upon it” (Isaiah 5:6). Thus, clouds serve as messengers, and any righteous individual who has absorbed wisdom in their heart can impart knowledge, saying, “Let my teaching fall as rain and let my words drop as dew on the earth” (Deuteronomy 32:2), for it is declared, “Let the earth hear the words of my mouth.”

Moreover, concerning the saying, “if a tree falls to the south, or to the north, in the place where it fell, there it shall be,” we reference the scripture from Habakkuk that states, “God from Teman shall come,” which some render as “God from the south shall come.” Notably, the south is often viewed positively, just as the Song of Songs calls out, “arise from the north and come from the south.” Therefore, the tree that falls in this life, cut down by the law of death, may have sinned while alive, resulting in its placement on the northern side, or if it bore good fruit, it shall rest on the southern side. Every tree shall lie to either the north or the south. This notion is reflected in Isaiah’s words: “to the river to the north: bring it forth, and to Lebanon: do not abhor it” (Isaiah 43:6). The commands for the east and west winds are absent, as those who would journey east and west must come from other lands (i.e., north and south). Hence, the northern wind draws its inhabitants towards the west, while the southern wind brings its people to the east, for they cannot find favor if they remain in their previous locations.

Ambrose of Milan

4th centuryChurch Father

The individual who engages deeply with knowledge and comprehends it thoroughly is enriched. This enriched person shares their wisdom with others. In this way, the Scriptures convey, When the clouds are full, they will pour rain on the earth.

Gregory the Wonderworker

3rd centuryChurch Father

The clouds generously release their plentiful rain, nourishing the earth, and though the tree may seem steadfast, if people neglect it, the winds can bring it down.

Didymus the Blind

4th centuryTeacher of the Church

The text clearly conveys a symbolic message with a deep spiritual significance. In various respects, the southern region contrasts with the northern one in its geographical position, yet it also rises to a higher spiritual interpretation. In the Song of Songs, the bride expresses a yearning by stating, "Lift up the wind from the north, and bring it from the south" (Song 4:16). She seeks to dispel the malevolent forces that reside within her. While malevolence threatened her, it was the northern wind that seemed to offer her solace. However, as she chose to turn away from evil and embraced righteous actions, she began to welcome the southern wind.

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She recognized the impact of this choice: “Blow on my garden, - and its fragrances will flow!” (Song of Songs 4:16) — a recognition that the northern wind does not produce such effects. She indeed refers to these winds in their literal meanings, designating ‘the north wind’ as ‘the cold wind.’ A cold wind influences the imperceptible ‘eyes of the trees,’ known as pores, by retaining the aromatic elements contained within. Conversely, when a warm wind ‘blows on the garden,’ it signifies the garden of the soul, leading to the opening of those pores.

Ireneus (Orda)

19th centuryCommentator

It is important to never shy away from performing acts of kindness, even in the absence of anticipated rewards; often, after a considerable period, these good deeds are acknowledged (11:1). We are encouraged to extend our goodwill to as many individuals as possible since, in times of unexpected hardship, at least one of those we have helped may come to our aid (2). Achieving a favorable outcome (‘reap’) requires, on one side, divine provision and, on the other, human initiative (*sow*). There are scenarios orchestrated by God where both the cause and human action are evident (for instance, when the clouds are brimming, they will pour rain upon the earth, or when a tree falls, it remains in its place) (3).

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However, there are also instances that elude human comprehension (such as the ways of the wind or the nature of the workings within the womb) (5). Therefore, one should not squander time attempting to monitor these perplexing situations for understanding (4); instead, it is essential to persistently and patiently continue our endeavors, as what may not succeed at one moment due to unfavorable conditions could flourish at another (6). Regardless of outcomes, life inherently carries joys (7), and if a person refrains from overly pursuing success, they may find happiness throughout their lives, irrespective of circumstances. Especially when considering the length of the shadowy days that follow death, when a person will no longer bask in the light (7), it is crucial to seize the present, as the future remains uncertain and is often deemed vanity (8).

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