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Isaiah 41:23Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Shew the things that are to come hereafter, and we shall know that ye are gods. Do ye also good or evil, if you can: and let us speak, and see together.

Douay-Rheims

הַגִּ֙ידוּ֙ הָאֹתִיּ֣וֹת לְאָח֔וֹר וְנֵ֣דְעָ֔ה כִּ֥י אֱלֹהִ֖ים אַתֶּ֑ם אַף־תֵּיטִ֣יבוּ וְתָרֵ֔עוּ וְנִשְׁתָּ֖עָה ונרא וְנִרְאֶ֥ה יַחְדָּֽו׃

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John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

These statements hold a dual significance, referring both to divine foresight and to the concepts of grace and retribution, which are solely the actions of God, distinct from those of demons. One might question whether the demons can act independently. The answer is no; they can achieve nothing on their own accord but only through the allowance of God. Thus, if God permits it, then they might be able to influence something. Why is it surprising that the devil, lacking God’s authority, cannot inflict harm upon humanity, considering he was unable to even affect swine and canines, as demonstrated in the Gospel and the account of Job?

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

Allow them to approach and declare to you the truths that are destined to unfold or those that have already transpired; let us broaden our understanding that the final days and what is yet to come will indeed occur. From where do you originate, and what is your purpose? It is from the earth that the detestable has selected you. The hallmark of divine, incomprehensible majesty is to possess full knowledge and to be devoid of ignorance concerning all things—past, present, and future. Thus, the wise Moses distinctly recapitulates events that preceded the world's creation, affirming: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. However, the earth was formless and void, and darkness lay over the surface of the deep (Genesis 1:1-2), detailing the creation of the entire cosmos.

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Our Lord Jesus Christ, who previously spoke these truths through Moses, has also revealed what is to come, for, as one of His apostles mentions, we will witness new heavens and a new earth, along with His promises (2 Pet. 3:13). We may hear Him proclaim, “What shall be hid from me?” (Jeremiah 32:21). The word of God is indeed alive and powerful, sharper than any double-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, joints and marrow, and no creature is concealed from Him, but all things are laid bare and revealed before His sight (Heb. 4:12-13). As God, He redeems, performs good works, and fills with all joy those who revere Him, yet He brings sorrow and punishment upon the arrogant who fail to do good. However, none of these attributes can be found in stone idols, for what can lifeless matter accomplish? How can they be a source of goodness or cause distress to those incapable of helping themselves, merely receiving stability and form from external sources? Hence, it is said, let those acknowledged as gods come and proclaim what is to occur, let them declare the beginning, the end, and the imminent: then, as he states, we shall know that you are indeed gods. Yet, if you cannot foretell, at least do well or inflict harm. If you can achieve neither, then it becomes evident where you originate and what your purpose is: you are an abomination formed from earth; whether an idol is constructed from wood, splendid stone, or any other material, all ultimately derive from the earth. One might marvel at the idolaters; if only they could grasp that their actions will one day cease—they neither foresaw nor understood that they would ultimately be consumed alongside their own temples, becoming a jest to those who had once wandered astray.

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

We understand that you are divine: you have the ability to perform both righteous and wicked acts. When you disclose future events, it will be evident that you have the power to do good as well as evil.

Jerome of Stridon

4th centuryChurch Father

Bring forth your case, says the Lord; present it, if you are able, says the King of Jacob. Allow them to approach and reveal to us the events that are to unfold: recount the past matters, and we will reflect upon them and comprehend their outcomes: announce to us the future occurrences. Disclose the events that are yet to happen, and we will know that you are indeed gods. If you can, show us either good or evil, so that we may engage in conversation together. Behold, you are of no significance, and your cause is null; it is an abomination to Him who has chosen you. As previously mentioned, there exist two types of Jacob and Israel: those who do not believe and those who place their faith in the Lord and Savior.

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Consequently, following the calling of the Gentiles, as streams and springs emerged in the once barren church, and diverse trees were adorned with marvelous foliage, receiving abundant blessings: the Gentiles who rejected Christ are called to account, to explain their unwillingness to perceive, comprehend, and understand that it is the hand of the Lord that has accomplished these things, and the Holy One of Israel has brought forth all creation. Let your idols draw near, he says, which you regard as powerful. Or bring forth whatever you possess and express your reasoning for rejecting the revealed truth. Simultaneously, an invitation is extended to the idols themselves, despite their lack of sensation, hearing, or ability to respond. Speak to us, he says, about past or future events, and from the evidence of occurrences, validate your might. This signifies that following Christ's coming, all idols fell silent: where is Apollo of Delphi, along with other demigods, who promised foresight and misled mighty kings? Why could they not prophesy about Christ, His apostles, or the impending destruction of temples? If they could not predict their own downfall, how could they foresee the fate of others, be it good or bad? Yet, if one claims that many predictions were made by idols, it must be recognized that they consistently conflated falsehood with truth, allowing for interpretations regardless of whether good or evil came to pass. A prime example is the infamous foretelling to Pyrrhus, king of the Epirotes: “I tell you, Eacidus, that the victory of the Romans is possible,” and to Croesus: “Croesus, having crossed the Gales, will destroy vast kingdoms.” Another testament to the ineffectiveness of idols is that they cannot perform either good or evil. This is not to say that idols or the spirits inhabiting them did not cause harm, but they could only do so with divine permission. In the Gospel, they claim to have been granted authority over the herd of swine (Matt. 8). In Job, we see that the adversary was unable to even harm the livestock and possessions of the righteous (Job 1). It is unsurprising when the Apostle Paul delivered some to Satan so they might learn not to speak blasphemously (1 Tim. 1). Thus, it can be said that they are lifeless images of men, lacking reason, and can neither perform good nor ill, possessing no knowledge of the past or future, having originated from nothingness and that which lacks existence, not only deserving scorn by their nature, but more so by those who venerate them. The idols of the tongue are crafted from silver and gold, the handiwork of men; they have mouths, yet they do not speak; they have eyes, yet they cannot see (Psalm 113:12-13). How can they predict and narrate the future or recount the past, or distinguish between good and evil, when they lack the faculties possessed by humans or even silent creatures? It is irrelevant what material they are made of, as they are all composed of earthly elements.

“Tell me the past and the future events that will be, and I will assert that you are gods,” proclaims Isaiah (Isaiah 41:23), signifying that it is impossible for anyone to disclose the prior events of creation and the future matters beyond this world. We can only know the ordinary things that are revealed in Scripture: when the world was created, when man was formed, when the flood occurred, and when the law was given; that through one man all the earth was filled, and that in the fullness of time, the Son of God took on flesh for our redemption.

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