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Job 19:4Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

For if I have been ignorant, my ignorance shall be with me.

Douay-Rheims

וְאַף־אָמְנָ֥ם שָׁגִ֑יתִי אִ֝תִּ֗י תָּלִ֥ין מְשׁוּגָתִֽי׃

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John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

He expresses this from a desire to submit, repeatedly making various concessions. He does not permit the truth to remain stagnant but engages in the ongoing battle. He states, "Imagine if you were to criticize the great folly and absurdity of my words, deeming them inappropriate. However, instead of trampling on my plight, you should feel shame for my suffering, fear the One who has brought me affliction, and exhibit compassion due to the severity of my trials."

Gregory the Great

6th centuryChurch Father

When I find myself truly in ignorance, that ignorance stays with me, as Job 19:4 states. Those who hold heretical views exhibit a characteristic behavior of inflated self-importance, priding themselves on their so-called knowledge while dismissing the humble life as insignificant and belittling the faith of the righteous. In contrast, the Holy Church, genuinely wise in her essence, maintains a humble view of herself, refraining from boasting about her understanding, avoiding arrogance in her quest for hidden truths, and steering clear of matters beyond her comprehension. To attain genuine benefits, she does not wish to grasp what lies beyond her understanding nor does she attempt to categorically define the unknown.

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As Proverbs 25:27 reminds us, it is not wise to consume too much honey; similarly, the pursuit of greatness can lead to ruin. While honey may offer sweet delight, an excess can result in harm, just as seeking prominence beyond the bounds of human understanding can lead to disgrace, leaving the seeker in distress, as their capacity to comprehend is overwhelmed. When they declare that something is 'with us,' they imply it is for us, supporting us, whereas something ‘not with us’ often signifies opposition. Hence, due to the prideful knowledge that elevates the heretic’s heart, let the blessed Job articulate both for himself and on behalf of the Universal Church: When I am truly in ignorance, that ignorance remains with me. This serves as a response to the heretics’ assertions: Your knowledge does not benefit you, for it merely serves to inflate your pride, whereas my ignorance supports and sustains me, grounded in humility before God. Heretics pursue knowledge solely to elevate themselves and differentiate their supposed wisdom from the faithful, which Job rightly counters by stating: But you are set against me.

Examining these words in the context of Job’s companions reveals that upon witnessing the righteous man undergoing suffering, they ought to have reflected deeply upon their own moral condition rather than chastising him. They should have pondered what consequences awaited them, as their lack of service compared to Job's was indeed revealing. Thus, when Job states, You set yourselves against me, it serves as a direct admonishment, indicating they should redirect their focus inward rather than outward. The righteous must first confront their own shortcomings before addressing the faults of others. Those who oppose good are often blinded by pride. We examine ourselves by recognizing our failings, fostering genuine repentance, and resisting the temptation to excuse our sins, allowing us, ultimately, to assist others in overcoming their transgressions by encouraging their repentance. However, the wicked remain ignorant of this principle; they forsake their own souls while attacking the virtuous, justifying their actions while harshly rebuking the righteous. Thus, blessed Job properly addressed his friends by noting: You are set against me, implying, you who deserve correction rebuke me harshly. A person who hasn’t assessed their own state is ill-equipped to judge others; even if they possess knowledge, they remain incapable of accurately assessing others through a lens clouded by self-righteousness.

This is reflected when certain individuals sought to condemn an adulteress, and it was said to them, He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her (Jn. 8:7). They aimed to punish others while ignoring their faults, and thus, their consciences compelled them to rectify their own failings before reproaching others. For instance, when the tribe of Benjamin fell into deep sin, all of Israel sought to address the issue, seeking divine counsel before vengeance, as commanded (Judg. 20). Despite their zeal to punish sin, they faced repeated setbacks until they, themselves, were disciplined and purified before addressing others’ sins. Therefore, when God’s judgment rests upon us, our conscience should lead us toward repentance rather than directing harshness at the good. Job’s companions failed in this regard, prompting his assertion: You are set against me, reproaching me needlessly. Those who trust in their own understanding often view temporary suffering as a dire punishment and assume that those who suffer are under God’s condemnation. Hence, Job’s voice addresses this misguided perspective.

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