The Church Fathers on this verse

Job 4:17Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Shall man be justified in comparison of God, or shall a man be more pure than his maker?

Douay-Rheims

הַֽ֭אֱנוֹשׁ מֵאֱל֣וֹהַ יִצְדָּ֑ק אִ֥ם מֵ֝עֹשֵׂ֗הוּ יִטְהַר־גָּֽבֶר׃

Hebrew (Masoretic text)

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2 Church Fathers comment on this verse

Olympiodorus of Alexandria

6th centuryChurch Father

Do not misunderstand, He says, for I do not address you with condemnation; no individual is entirely without fault. Even if someone manages to hide aspects of their life from others, nothing escapes the all-knowing gaze of God, who is fully aware of all matters. This is the significance of the words spoken in the presence of the Lord.

Notes: * For what then? Shall a mortal be pure before the Lord? Or is a man blameless in his works? Synodical translation: Is a man more righteous than God? And is a man more pure than his Creator?

Ireneus (Orda)

19th centuryCommentator

Job’s laments about his circumstances provoke his companions to challenge him, initiating an extensive discussion regarding the reasons behind his plight. Eliphaz is the first to confront Job. After soliciting permission to address him, he expresses his astonishment that a man who had frequently offered solace and encouragement to those in distress could now voice such anguished grievances, especially when his awareness of his own virtues should assure him of a blessed fate. He draws from his experience, asserting that the innocent are always shielded from ruin, while might and aggression hold no power against the divine displeasure. Thus, he concludes that if Job were genuinely virtuous, he would not endure such calamities.

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To bolster this claim, Eliphaz recounts a profound revelation he received in a dream, which conveyed to him that in the sight of God, who discerns faults even among angels, no one is truly blameless, and that human beings are as susceptible to divine wrath as a worm is to the force of the wind. Amid this fervent discourse, Eliphaz appears to overlook the truth that all creation, each within its own order, is fundamentally good and that angels possess a relative perfection. Therefore, his assertion that angels are not exempt from flaws is erroneous and does not substantiate the notion that Job's nature marked him as sinful. The Church Fathers, such as Athanasius and Chrysostom, provide insights regarding the fallibility of the angels.

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