The Church Fathers on this verse

John 6:42Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

And they said: Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then saith he: I came down from heaven?

Douay-Rheims

και ελεγον ουχ ουτος εστιν ιησους ο υιος ιωσηφ ου ημεις οιδαμεν τον πατερα και την μητερα πως ουν λεγει ουτος οτι εκ του ουρανου καταβεβηκα

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The Church Fathers on this verse

13 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

From these words it is clear that they did not yet even know of His wondrous and extraordinary birth. For this reason they call Him the son of Joseph.

Christ does not reproach them and does not say, "I am not the son of Joseph." This is not because He was the son of Joseph, but because they could not yet hear of that wondrous birth.

If they could not clearly hear of His birth according to the flesh, still less could they hear of His ineffable birth from on high.

If He did not reveal to them what was lowly, He still less could have spoken to them of those things. Although His origin from a simple and undistinguished father greatly offended them, He did not reveal the truth.

He refrained so that, in removing one stumbling block, He would not create another. What, then, does He answer to their murmuring?

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

Looking at what was visible and not understanding that He is also God, they murmured as though the Lord were deceiving them. They said: "Is this not the son of Joseph?"

The Savior Himself does not answer them, "I am not Joseph's son," for they could not understand the ineffable birth from the Virgin.

If their thought could not embrace His birth according to the flesh, still less could it embrace His pre-eternal birth from the Father. What then does He answer them?

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

O exceedingly great ignorance, and a mind darkened by untamed frenzy! According to what is written, the heart of this people has grown dull (Is 6:10; Mt 13:15).

It truly sees nothing of what it ought clearly to understand. In thought and word it treats this as worthy of laughter.

Yet they should have studied carefully the writings of the wise Moses. They should have used the preaching of the holy prophets and understood that the coming of Christ to us was expected not without flesh.

It was not expected without a bodily covering. Rather, His manifestation in human form and in the appearance common to all men had been foretold.

For this reason the prophetic word proclaims to us that the Holy Virgin will conceive and bear a Son (Is 7:14).

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Likewise, the Lord announces to blessed David by oath the true and unchangeable promise. He will set upon his throne One from the fruit of his loins, as it is written (Ps 131:11).

He also foretold that a rod would come forth from the root of Jesse (Is 11:1).

Yet they do not realize they have fallen into such folly. They see the fleshly "mother" of Him whose coming in the flesh was foretold.

For this reason, they think there can be no need to believe that He came down from heaven.

Yet although we find that this took place not according to the law of the flesh, the Divine Word was nevertheless in the body received from the Virgin as in His own temple.

He came down from the Father to us from above. For the salvation of all, He took on "the seed of Abraham," so that He might be made like "His brethren in all things" (Heb 2:16-17).

He did this in order to call human nature to adoption by God, appearing as God and also as man.

But the Jews did not understand the divine economy of our Savior's coming in the flesh. Because they knew His "mother" and His "father," though he was not His father, they are not ashamed to be indignant.

They are indignant that Christ says of Himself that He came down from heaven.

Here again a very useful example appears to us. Through this we are taught about matters that concern us.

Great harm can come to us if we no longer behold with the spiritual eyes of the heart the virtue present in the saints. We fail to look upon the glory hidden in them.

Because of their bodily insignificance, we often count as nothing what is great and most honorable before God.

Thus, in the prophets, God speaks in one place about the saints. In the person of one man, He extends the word, as it were, to all.

"Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, and the Lord will be his hope. He shall be like a tree planted by the waters, which sends out its root by the stream.

In the time of drought he shall not fear, and he shall not cease bearing fruit. The heart is deep beyond all things, and man is such; who shall know him?

I the Lord search the hearts and test the inward parts" (Jer 17:7-10).

If, then, through our arrogance, we belittle a man known to God and made worthy of the virtues just named, we look only at his outward, visible, perishable flesh.

If we regard bodily dishonor as a sign of faintheartedness in him, will we not be found thinking contrary to the King of all?

Will we not thereby fall under no small punishment? We would be calling the lofty low, reckoning light as darkness, and counting the sweet bitter (Is 5:20).

Therefore we must preserve toward the saints the honor due them. We must contemplate them more in their inward and hidden excellences than in their bodily appearance.

Yet most of us do not consider worthy of honor or any glory what is despised in the world, even if it is distinguished by virtues.

We look only at great abundance of wealth. We gaze with utterly unjust eyes at passing glory, already almost ready to die, and we reduce right judgment to nothing.

The Savior's disciple rightly mocks such people, saying, "You hypocrites. If a man with a gold ring and fine clothing enters your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also enters,

then you say to the rich man, 'Sit here in a good place,' and to the poor man, 'Stand there,' or, 'Sit under my footstool.' Do you not judge within yourselves?" (Jas 2:2-4).

From this one can see what just rebuke is owed to those who honor a man by his outward clothing and not by his inward qualities.

For wealth and the splendor that comes from wealth can naturally bring their possessors only a foreign and counterfeit glory.

But the brightness of the heart and its radiance through good works will be true and natural wealth for those who possess them.

It does not remain with the body and rot together with it. Rather, it dwells with the soul while the soul remains in this earthly life.

When the soul departs, that wealth also flies away with it to the place indicated by the Guide of all. For "in My Father's house are many mansions," as we have heard (Jn 14:2).

Therefore honor must certainly, indeed necessarily, be shown not to the one glorious in wealth. Nor to the one adorned, as in a picture, with petty earthly glory.

Rather, honor belongs to those in whom the splendor of deeds, with God's help, begets unfading glory. Their inward beauty shows them forth in brilliant light through every kind of good.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

They were far from the heavenly bread and did not know what it means to hunger for it. For this heavenly bread requires the hunger of the inner man.

When our Lord Jesus Christ, as we heard in the Gospel during the reading, said that He is the bread which came down from heaven, the Jews murmured against Him.

They said: "Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and Mother we know? How then does He say, 'I have come down from heaven'?"

They were far from the heavenly bread and did not know how to thirst for it. The throats of their hearts were weak. Having ears, they did not hear. They looked, yet remained blind.

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That bread, of course, sought the hunger of the inner man. Therefore He says elsewhere, "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled" (cf. Mt 5:6).

The Apostle Paul says that Christ Himself is righteousness for us (cf. 1 Cor 1:30). Therefore whoever hungers for that bread hungers for righteousness.

But he hungers for the righteousness that comes down from heaven, the righteousness that God gives, not the righteousness that man creates for himself.

For if man created no righteousness for himself, the same Apostle would not have said of the Jews: "Being ignorant of God's righteousness and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they did not submit to the righteousness of God" (Rom 10:3).

Thus they were the ones who did not understand the bread that came down from heaven. Being filled with their own righteousness, they did not hunger for the righteousness of God.

What is the righteousness of God, and what is human righteousness? Here the righteousness of God does not mean that by which God is righteous, but that which God gives to man, so that man may become righteous through God.

But what was the righteousness of the Jews? It was that by which they relied on their own strength. Therefore they were, as it were, saying that by their own virtue they were fulfillers of the Law by themselves.

Yet only the one whom grace supports fulfills the Law. That grace is the bread that came down from heaven. For, as the Apostle says briefly, "love is the fulfillment of the law" (cf. Rom 13:10).

This is not love of money, but love of God. It is not love of earth or of heaven, but of Him Who created heaven and earth.

From where does man have this love? Let us hear the Apostle: "The love of God has been poured out in your hearts by the Holy Spirit Who has been given to us" (Rom 5:5).

Therefore the Lord, intending to give the Holy Spirit, said that He is the bread which came down from heaven, urging us to believe in Him. For to believe in Him is the same as to eat the living bread.

Whoever believes eats. He is filled invisibly, because he is invisibly born again. The infant is within. The new man is within. Where he has been renewed, there he is filled.

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryChurch Father

When Jesus Christ gave them bread and filled their belly, they called Him a prophet and wanted to make Him king. But when He spoke with them about the heavenly bread, spiritual food, and eternal life, they were troubled and reproached His lineage.

They were those "whose god is their belly," as the Apostle Paul beautifully said (Phil 3:19). They pretended to be indignant because Jesus Christ had said, "I have come down from heaven."

In truth, they were angry because He had not fed them as they expected. If they had murmured against Jesus Christ because of those words, they would certainly have asked, "How is He bread? How did He come down from heaven?"

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Jesus Christ did not say, "I am not the son of Joseph." Nor did He reveal anything at all about His origin. He knew that they were not yet able to hear of His wondrous birth, much less of His pre-eternal generation.

Therefore, according to His all-wise designs, He passed over this matter. He did so lest, while removing one stumbling block, He should create another.

Alexander Gorsky

19th centuryChurch Father

Hearing this, the Jews began openly to murmur because Jesus had called Himself the bread which came down from heaven.

"Do not murmur," the Lord answered. "You have not yet been brought to Me by the Father. It is written in the prophets that all shall be taught by God. You have not yet entered the number of those taught by God.

"But whoever is drawn by the Father and comes to Me, to him I shall truly give life. I shall raise him up on the last day." Therefore He has the right to call Himself the bread which came down from heaven, the bread of God.

Yet this must not be understood as though anyone could draw his instruction from the Father apart from the Son. No one has seen the Father except the Son, and only the Son can communicate true knowledge of the Father.

The word by which the Father teaches through the Son is contained in the miracles.

Bogolepow D.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

In the preceding discourse Jesus Christ called Himself the true bread of God, which came down from heaven. This offended the Jews. They were offended not because Jesus Christ taught about Himself as the Messiah, but because He ascribed a heavenly origin to Himself.

They found the basis for their unbelief toward this self-testimony of Christ in the fact that they knew His earthly origin from the family of Joseph of Nazareth.

Yet this unbelief was not the fruit of misunderstanding. The miracles of Jesus Christ sufficiently testified to the extraordinary nature of His person.

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Jesus Christ saw the hardness of their hearts. He now shows why they so stubbornly refuse to believe in Him. No one, He says, can come to Me unless the Father Who sent Me draws him, as had already been foretold in the Old Testament.

Therefore, because of the hardheartedness and unworthiness of the Jews who heard Jesus Christ, the gracious action of the Father had not yet touched their hearts. This action calls to salvation.

Without it, man, blinded by sin, cannot see the light of truth. But lest anyone misunderstand Isaiah's prophecy (54:13) about direct instruction from God, Jesus Christ speaks further.

This prophecy must not be understood as though any man could ever see God, speak directly with Him, or know the divine essence through immediate sight and contemplation.

God acts upon men invisibly by His grace. The immediate vision of the divine essence belongs only to His Son.

Therefore only through the Son can men receive the full light of the knowledge of God needed for salvation, and through this receive eternal life (17:3).

Therefore: "Amen, amen, I say to you: he who believes in Me has eternal life."

Gladkow B.I.

19th centuryChurch Father

When the Lord said this, murmuring was heard in the synagogue. The scribes and Pharisees were speaking among themselves, repeating what Jesus had said: "I am the bread which came down from heaven."

Not understanding, or not wishing to understand, the meaning of these words, they said almost mockingly: "Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and Mother we know? How then does He say, 'I have come down from heaven'?"

They said this in order to cool the faith in Jesus that was beginning to arise in those present, the faith that He had been sent by God Himself.

All Jesus' teaching and the works He performed suggested to many of His hearers that He truly came from God. At that very moment the protest of the Pharisees was heard.

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"What is He saying? Can one believe Him when He says that He came from God, from heaven? He did not come from heaven, but from Nazareth. We all know this.

"We know that He is the son of Joseph the carpenter, and Himself a carpenter. We know His Mother as well. How then does He say that He came down from heaven? Who can believe this?"

That not all who were in the synagogue at that time murmured in this way, but only the scribes and Pharisees, is clear from what follows.

In answering this murmuring, Jesus appeals to the prophecies. He never did this when teaching the people who were unacquainted with the Scriptures.

The scribes and Pharisees, who were always hostile to Jesus Christ, did not miss the slightest opportunity to shake the people's faith in Him as the Messiah.

Now, when the Lord said that He came down from heaven to do the will of the Father Who sent Him (Jn 6:38), they turned to the people with unconcealed mockery.

They said that Jesus of Nazareth, whose father and Mother they knew, could not have come down from heaven.

Lopuchin A.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

Then angry murmuring was heard again, this time not from the ignorant people, but from His old opponents, the Jewish leaders: "How does He say, 'I have come down from heaven'? How can He say, 'I am the bread which came down from heaven'?

Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know?"

Michail (Lusin)

19th centuryChurch Father

"And they said," and so forth. Not knowing of the Lord's supernatural conception and birth, they regarded Him as the son of Joseph and Mary.

This human origin seemed to them to contradict what He affirmed about Himself as having come down from heaven, and they were scandalized by this (Jn 6:61; cf. Mt 13:54-57 and the note).

"We know His father and mother": the expression seems to show that righteous Joseph was then still alive. However, the subsequent Gospel history is silent about him.

Nikolaj Alexandrow

19th centuryChurch Father

The words of Jesus Christ, "I am the bread which came down from heaven," provoked the murmuring of the Jews: "Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and Mother we know? How then does He say, 'I have come down from heaven'?" (vv. 41-42).

Since the murmuring scribes and Pharisees always appealed to Holy Scripture as proof of their rightness, the Lord Jesus Christ also points to the words of the prophet Isaiah (Isa 54:13): "And they shall all be taught by God."

In these words the prophet Isaiah speaks of the descent to earth of the Lord Himself, the Son of God, to teach men the Truth.

For no one among men has seen God the Father except the incarnate Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ (v. 46).

Philaret (Gumilevski)

19th centuryChurch Father

Verses 41-42. Some of the hearers did not wish to accept that Jesus Christ is the bread that came down from heaven. We know His Father and Mother, they said, and He says that He is from heaven! Incompatible thoughts!

Similar doubts from the dissatisfied were expressed many times (Mt 13:55; Jn 10:19, 24). Here again one hears the voice of the members of the synagogue of Capernaum, concerned to gather rumors about the origin of the wonderworker of Capernaum and Cana.

Wlastow G.K.

19th centuryChurch Father

Let us note that unbelievers of our own time invariably say the same thing the unbelieving Jews said: "We know the father and mother of Jesus. How then could He have come down from heaven?"

We, in turn, ask: if it pleased God to assume human flesh, to take upon Himself the form of a servant and the full human form, how would He not be born in a human family?

How would He appear among men outside the familial and social order of the people among whom it pleased Him to be incarnate?

How this birth took place from the flesh of the Virgin, who remained Virgin both before and after the birth, remained a mystery for a time to the Lord's contemporaries.

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Yet it had been foretold by the prophets: "Behold, the Virgin shall conceive" (Isa 7:14; Mt 1:23), and Isa 9:6: "A Child is born to us; a Son is given to us."

The Lord Jesus did not wish to draw the souls of His hearers to Himself by earthly glory, but by "the words of grace which proceeded from His mouth" (Lk 4:22).

The Jews murmur because He said to them, "I am the bread which came down from heaven." They do not understand that by their murmuring they repeat their perpetual rebellion against the Spirit of God.

This is not forgiven to man, because it proceeds from an evil will and a hardened soul, which maliciously refuses to bow before the words of grace and truth.

In the crowd surrounding the Lord, these Jews stand out sharply and vividly, that is, the scribes and Pharisees. Their heart is envious and unclean.

Their thoughts do not rise above the earthly Jewish kingdom. Their concepts are narrow. With the confidence and dullness of half-learned men and rationalists, they do not see the spiritual side of the teaching.

This teaching develops the human soul and raises it to heaven. But they do not understand the Spirit of God, and they measure the teaching they hear by their own small measure.

How, they say, can Jesus call Himself bread from heaven when we know His parents?

Earlier they had pointed to Moses and the manna, in order to set the prophet against the Lord Who had worked the miracle of the multiplication of the loaves.

They were silenced by the indication that God, not Moses, gave the manna. They were also silenced by the truth that manna is not eternal food, while the Word of God is eternal, spiritual food that gives eternal life.

Now the Jews raise another question about the origin of the One Who speaks to them the words of life. In the following verses the Lord again raises them from what is earthly and passing to what is heavenly and eternal.

The Lord's teaching saves only good souls. Hardened men condemn themselves to destruction, for the Lord's words are "the power of God to those who are being saved" (cf. 1 Cor 1:18), not to those who are perishing.

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Passages read together with this verse.

The original text

Greek text, 25 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  2. ἔλεγον
    elegon
    I say
    G3004 · λέγω
  3. Οὐχ
    ouch
    by no means
    G3780 · οὐ
  4. οὗτός
    houtos
    this
    G3778 · οὗτος
  5. ἐστιν
    estin
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  6. Ἰησοῦς
    iēsous
    Jesus
    G2424 · Ἰησοῦς
  7. ὁ
    ho
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  8. υἱὸς
    huios
    a son
    G5207 · υἱός
  9. Ἰωσήφ
    iōsēph
    Joseph
    G2501 · Ἰωσήφ
  10. οὗ
    hou
    who
    G3739 · ὅς, ἥ
  11. ἡμεῖς
    hēmeis
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  12. οἴδαμεν
    oidamen
    I know
    G1492 · εἴδω
  13. τὸν
    ton
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  14. πατέρα
    patera
    father
    G3962 · πατήρ
  15. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  16. τὴν
    tēn
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  17. μητέρα
    mētera
    a mother
    G3384 · μήτηρ
  18. πῶς
    pōs
    how
    G4459 · πως
  19. νῦν
    nyn
    now
    G3568 · νῦν
  20. λέγει
    legei
    I say
    G3004 · λέγω
  21. ὅτι
    hoti
    that
    G3754 · ὅτι
  22. Ἐκ
    ek
    from out
    G1537 · ἐκ
  23. τοῦ
    tou
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  24. οὐρανοῦ
    ouranou
    the sky
    G3772 · οὐρανός
  25. καταβέβηκα
    katabebēka
    I go down
    G2597 · καταβαίνω