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1 John 2:19Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

They went out from us but they were not of us. For if they had been of us, they would no doubt have remained with us: but that they may be manifest, that they are not all of us.

Douay-Rheims

εξ ημων εξηλθον αλλ ουκ ησαν εξ ημων ει γαρ ησαν εξ ημων μεμενηκεισαν αν μεθ ημων αλλ ινα φανερωθωσιν οτι ουκ εισιν παντες εξ ημων

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The Church Fathers on this verse

12 Church Fathers comment on this verse

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

Having mentioned the antichrists, he adds where they are from, and says: they are from us. He adds this without at all hindering the clarity of the speech. It is as though he had asked himself: where are these antichrists from? And he answered: they are from us. This is what he should have done, but he did not speak in just that way. Perhaps, by the compressed form of speech, he wished to show the distress aroused by them. Why then are antichrists from the disciples of the Lord? So that they may have credibility with those being deceived. The deceived are meant to think that, since they are from among the disciples, they preach teaching according to the Teacher's thoughts. They are not to appear completely opposed to His preaching. Therefore, he says, they went out from us.

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That is, although they were disciples, they fell away from the truth and invented their own blasphemies. They were not of us, that is, not of the portion of those being saved. Otherwise they would have remained in union with their own. But now they have gone out from us so that it might become manifest that they have become wholly alien to us. Among them there are also some who were not from us, but to whom those who went out from us attached themselves. It was for their sake that the Apostle said: not all are of us.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

People think that all those among them who are good and faithful must receive the ability to endure to the end. But God judged it better to mingle some who will not be able to endure with a certain number of His saints. Thus all those who are not guaranteed safety amid the temptations of this life cannot be at ease.

Cyprian of Carthage

3rd centuryChurch Father

From this it is clear that the opponents of the Lord and the antichrists are all those who, let it be known, have departed from love and also from the unity of the catholic Church.

Andrew the Monk

6th centuryChurch Father

The Apostle says this because, after becoming disciples, they departed from the truth and, through their inventions, began to devise blasphemies. Even if in the past they were once with us, they were not of us. For if they had been ours, they would have remained with their own. But now they are strangers.

Oecumenius

6th centuryChurch Father

I think that the Apostle, as though asking himself, "And where did these antichrists come from?" then added: they went out from us. This is what he should have said, but he writes otherwise, somewhat abruptly. This was probably because of the agitation that seized him when he spoke of the abominations concerning these people. But why did they need to belong to the number of the Lord's disciples? So that, as belonging to the number of the disciples and preaching according to the Teacher's will, they might easily inspire trust in the wavering. They were not to appear everywhere as notorious opponents of Christ's preaching. For this reason they were among the disciples. They went out from us, says the Apostle. For after becoming disciples, they turned aside from the truth and devised their own blasphemies.

Beda Venerabilis

7th centuryChurch Father

Let us look, striking our breast, and let us hear with sorrow of heart the Apostle's word: they went out from us. But he immediately offers us a word of consolation, adding: but they were not of us. That is, he affirms that those who are not against Christ could in no way fall away. Whoever is not against Christ cleaves to His body. There are some in the Lord's body who are still only being healed, and who will attain perfect health only in the resurrection of the dead. Yet there are also in it people like malignant swellings. When such swellings are removed, the body is healed. So too the falling away of these evil people from the Church is a good for her.

Eusebios (Orlinski)

19th centuryChurch Father

“They went out from us, but they were not of us.” They were formerly with us in the Church. They confessed the same Orthodox faith. They participated in the same saving mysteries. In appearance, they were members of the one and same body of the Church of Christ.

Yet they were not true members of the holy Church. They were not among those “called according to His purpose. For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son” (Rom 8:28-29).

They were not among those faithful sheep of Christ’s flock of whom the Lord said, “I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand” (Jn 10:27-28).

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Therefore the Apostle says, “but they were not of us.” Such was Simon Magus, whom the Apostle Philip baptized (Acts 8:9-25). Such was Nicolas, appointed by the Apostles as a deacon (Acts 6:5).

Such were Hymenaeus and Philetus, who had been in the company of Christians (2 Tim 2:17-18), and Cerinthus, who had previously seemed to belong to the number of the faithful.

“For if they had been of us, they would have continued with us.” If, according to the foreknowledge and predestination of God, they had belonged to the true members of Christ’s Church, they would have remained among the faithful.

No temptation and no scandal would have shaken them in the true faith. Even if, through weakness, they had fallen for a time, they would have risen again through sincere repentance.

“God is faithful,” Paul teaches, “who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it” (1 Cor 10:13).

But the heretics were not wheat appointed for the eternal granary. They were tares among the wheat. Therefore the wind of temptations carried them beyond the bounds of Christ’s threshing floor, out from the Orthodox Church.

“But they went out, that it might be made manifest that they all are not of us.” They separated from the Church of Christ before the predestined separation of the righteous and sinners at Christ’s last judgment.

Then Christ the Master of the house will gather His wheat into the granary, but will burn the chaff with unquenchable fire (Mt 3:12).

“They went out from us.” This was permitted so that it might be made manifest that not all visible Christians are true Christians. Not all who confess the Orthodox faith and approach the saving mysteries are sound members of the body of Christ’s Church.

Some, according to the word of the Gospel parable, believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away (Lk 8:13). They never again return to the bosom of the holy Church.

This dread lot belongs especially to heretics who have fallen away from the Orthodox faith and stubbornly remain in unbelief or false belief (Heb 6:4-8).

“And by this it was made manifest that they all are not of us.” Why was this necessary? Why, according to the ordering of divine providence, are unbelievers and false teachers revealed from among the faithful?

So that the faithful members of Christ’s Church may know whom they must beware, lest they imperceptibly fall into the nets of their impiety.

It is also so that the faithful, knowing that not all who visibly remain in the Church belong among the elect predestined to receive eternal life (Mt 7:22-23), may nourish within themselves the spirit of humility.

Thus, watching unceasingly, they may work out their salvation with fear, lest by negligence and carelessness they fall into grievous temptation and be deprived of the portion of the elect.

Ivanov A.V.

19th centuryChurch Father

"They went out from us, but they were not of us." False teachers appeared, and still appear, from among Christians themselves. The Apostle, of course, has in mind Simon Magus, who was baptized by Philip (Acts 8:13-24), Hymenaeus and Philetus (2 Tim 2:17-18), apostates from the truth, and Cerinthus, who was among those converted from the circumcision.

Michail (Lusin)

19th centuryChurch Father

They went out from us, and so forth. The Apostle's speech is chiefly about the antichrists, not about the chief antichrist. His statement about the latter is actually parenthetical, not central, as if added to explain the chief statement about the antichrists. In them the anti-Christian spirit had already expressed itself in apostolic times. As is clear from the context, by these antichrists the Apostle means the false teachers who appeared in the time of the Apostles. He now characterizes them in general. They went out from us, that is, they were formerly with us in the Church. This means that they confessed the same Orthodox faith, took part in the same Church Mysteries, and were members of one and the same mystical body of the Church of Christ.

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Thus they were not Jews or pagans by faith, but Christians. But they were not of us. Thus they belonged to the Church only outwardly. Inwardly they were not in it, but outside it. Perhaps they imagined that they inwardly belonged to the body of the Church, as happens with false teachers. Yet they deceived themselves in this. It became evident when they went out from the Church, that is, when the Church did not receive them into herself but rejected or expelled them. If they had truly belonged to the Church, they certainly would have remained faithful to the Church. No fall, no temptation, no trial would have shaken them in faith and attachment to the Church. If they had fallen through weakness, they would have risen by strength. But they went out. They separated from the Church, and they separated in such a way that they rose up against Christ and became antichrists. This testifies to their opposition to Christ and the Church. Thus it was shown that not all are of us. Not all visible Christians are true Christians. There are people who, from being venerators of Christ, have become antichrists. "Where are these antichrists from? They are from us. Why then are antichrists from the disciples of the Lord? So that they may have credibility with those being deceived. The deceived are meant to think that, since they are from among the disciples, they preach teaching according to the Teacher's thoughts. They are not to appear completely opposed to His preaching. Therefore he says: from us. They went out, that is, although they were disciples, they fell away from the truth and invented their own blasphemies. They were not of us, that is, not from the number of those being saved. Otherwise they would have remained in union with their own. But now they have done this so that it might be revealed, that is, so that it might become clear that they have become wholly alien to us. Among them there are also some who were not from us, but to whom those who went out from us attached themselves. For their sake I said that not all are of us" (Theophylact). How and why is this so? Evidently, according to God's fore-election and foreknowledge, the false teachers of whom the Apostle speaks were not, to use an image, wheat appointed for the eternal granary. They were tares among the wheat, which the devil sowed in Christ's field. Therefore the wind, or whirlwind, of temptations carried them beyond the boundaries of Christ's threshing floor, out of the Church (cf. Mt 13:36-47 and note).

Michail Cheraskov

19th centuryChurch Father

By guarding oneself from false teachings. "Children, it is the last time," that is, a time resembling the last antichristian time because of the multiplying lawlessness of men. "And as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared." That is, false teachers have appeared who deny the divinity of Jesus Christ. "From this we know that it is the last time" (1 Jn 2:18), a time resembling it because of the unchristian disposition of minds produced by false teachers. "They went out from us, but they were not of us" (1 Jn 2:18-19). That is, they were not among those being saved, although by name and outward appearance they belonged to the Christian Church.

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"For if they had been of us," the Apostle adds, "they would have remained with us." Any falls through weakness would not have separated them from the Church in faith and conviction. "But they went out, and by this it was revealed that not all are of us" (1 Jn 2:19). By this the Apostle instills special caution and fear before those most dangerous enemies of the Church who hide in her very depths, hypocritically covering themselves with the Christian name. This is also done by fidelity to what was heard from the beginning, and by obedience to the inner voice of the anointing from the Holy One.

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

Distinguishing the heretic-antichrists from the antichrist, who will come in his own name and will not be from among Christians (see 2 Thess 2:1-12), the Apostle says that they went out from the number of Christians. Yet they were not Christians in deed, because otherwise their falling away would have been impossible. We know that the Apostle John understood by "his own," in the full sense, only those who, along with membership in the Church and faith, also had love. Such people truly cannot be opponents of Christ, Who loved all and gave Himself up for all. "You cannot serve God and mammon," said Jesus Christ Himself (Mt 6:24).

Nikolaj Alexandrow

19th centuryChurch Father

To remain in communion with God, besides renouncing attachments to the goods of the world, one must avoid false teachers, the antichrists, the adversaries of Christ. The Apostle does not set forth the errors of the false teachers in detail, because he says: You have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. By "an anointing from the Holy One," the Apostle means the imparting of the gifts of the Holy Spirit to believers in the Mystery of Chrismation. He also means the knowledge acquired by believers when they enter the Church and receive the gifts of the Holy Spirit. This knowledge is sufficient to distinguish falsehood from truth.

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One need only abide in the teaching taught by "this anointing." Therefore the Apostle, without entering into details, indicates only the surest and most decisive sign of false teaching. "Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son." In other words, the liar, or false teacher and antichrist in the general sense, is the one who denies or distorts the teaching about the divine or human nature of Jesus Christ. Such a one does not confess that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, the Son of God and Savior of the world, the God-man, consubstantial with God the Father. The Apostle's expression has such a form that this is not merely a liar, but the liar above all: "Who is a liar, if not the one who denies?" There may be liars of various kinds, who deny or distort one teaching or another, one dogma or another. But whoever denies or distorts the fundamental and essentially important teaching about the God-manhood of Jesus Christ, the teaching that forms the chief stone in the building of the Church, is the liar above all. He is, as it were, the liar of liars, antichrist, or a son of antichrist.

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Passages read together with this verse.

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Greek text, 26 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. ἐξ
    ex
    from out
    G1537 · ἐκ
  2. ἡμῶν
    hēmōn
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  3. ἐξῆλθαν
    exēlthan
    I go out
    G1831 · ἐξέρχομαι
  4. ἀλλ᾽
    all
    but
    G235 · ἀλλά
  5. οὐκ
    ouk
    no
    G3756 · οὐ
  6. ἦσαν
    ēsan
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  7. ἐξ
    ex
    from out
    G1537 · ἐκ
  8. ἡμῶν
    hēmōn
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  9. εἰ
    ei
    if
    G1487 · εἰ
  10. γὰρ
    gar
    for
    G1063 · γάρ
  11. ἐξ
    ex
    from out
    G1537 · ἐκ
  12. ἡμῶν
    hēmōn
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  13. ἦσαν
    ēsan
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  14. μεμενήκεισαν
    memenēkeisan
    I remain
    G3306 · μένω
  15. ἂν
    an
    an untranslatable word that makes a statement contingent
    G302 · ἄν
  16. μεθ᾽
    meth
    with
    G3326 · μετά
  17. ἡμῶν
    hēmōn
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  18. ἀλλ᾽
    all
    but
    G235 · ἀλλά
  19. ἵνα
    hina
    in order that
    G2443 · ἵνα
  20. φανερωθῶσιν
    phanerōthōsin
    I make clear
    G5319 · φανερόω
  21. ὅτι
    hoti
    that
    G3754 · ὅτι
  22. οὐκ
    ouk
    no
    G3756 · οὐ
  23. εἰσὶν
    eisin
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  24. πάντες
    pantes
    all
    G3956 · πᾶς
  25. ἐξ
    ex
    from out
    G1537 · ἐκ
  26. ἡμῶν
    hēmōn
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ