The Church Fathers on this verse

1 Thessalonians 3:8Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Because now we live, if you stand in the Lord.

Douay-Rheims

οτι νυν ζωμεν εαν υμεις στηκετε εν κυριω

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

7 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

Meanwhile, the opposite was the case. Their not growing faint from sufferings, but bearing them courageously, helped to strengthen the disciples. Yet Paul presents everything from the opposite side and turns this into praise of them.

You, he says, anointed us. You gave us breath. You did not allow us to feel the temptations. He did not say, “we took courage.” Nor did he say, “we were comforted.” What then? “Now we live.”

By this he shows that he considers nothing else temptation and death for himself but their stumbling. Therefore he also considers their progress to be life for himself.

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How could anyone else express both sorrow over the weakness of disciples and joy in such a way? He did not say, “we rejoice,” but, “now we live,” meaning the future life. Therefore without this we do not consider life to be life.

Such should be the dispositions of teachers and disciples, and then nothing will be out of place. Then, expanding this thought, see what he says: “What thanks...”

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

He did not say, “we were comforted,” but “we live.” By this he shows that he regards their stumbling as death for himself, and their progress, steadfastness, and confirmation in Christ as life.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

Therefore the Apostle says, I appeal to your love and summon you in the Lord: do not be anxious about the present, my brethren, which you cannot take with you after death. Beware of sins, beware of iniquity, beware of worldly desires.

Then our fruit remains unharmed in us, and our reward with the Lord is full of joy. For although we say what must be said, preach what must be preached, and fulfill our duty before the Lord in the Lord’s sight, because we have not kept silence about what we fear and what we love. So that He does not find in us what is charged as guilt against the watchman, upon whomever the sword of the Lord’s punishment may fall, nevertheless we want our reward to be certain.

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Not so that you perish in the process, but so that you may be found (cf. Lk 15:32). For the Apostle Paul also was certain of his reward. But what did he say to the people? “Now we live, if you stand in the Lord.”

Ivanov A.V.

19th centuryChurch Father

“For now we live, if you stand fast in the Lord.” For a teacher and parent there can be no greater joy than when his children follow his instructions. Such joy even gave life to the Apostle. It made death itself neither fearful nor burdensome to him.

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

The Apostle compares his joy at receiving favorable news from Thessalonica with the impression of rising from the dead. By this he also defines the weight of his sorrow over the Thessalonians’ temptation, intensified by his own personal sufferings.

The Apostle was gladdened by news of the Thessalonians’ progress in faith and love. In particular, he was gladdened that they desired to see the Apostle just as he desired to see them.

“Faith and love, for the Apostle, are the essence of Christianity. Neither faith without love is worthy of praise, nor love without faith has value. Therefore, when he teaches, he teaches that all should hold faith working together with love.

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“He assures them that without it everything else is nothing before the eyes of God (Gal 5:6). When he praises someone, he praises for faith and love. The Apostle is also gladdened by their remembrance of him, not as remembrance, but because it signified attachment to the faith he had handed down to them” (Bishop Theophan).

“Who can be compared with Paul, who considers the salvation of others his own salvation? Nothing can trouble a good teacher so long as the affairs of his disciples proceed according to his desire.

“‘We were comforted concerning you,’ that is, you strengthened us, you anointed us, you did not allow us to fall under the weight of temptations. He did not say, ‘we took courage,’ but what? ‘Now we live.’

“By this he shows that he considers nothing else death for himself but their stumbling (1 Cor 15:31), and life to be their progress” (John Chrysostom).

“See then, stand firm. Do not shake my confidence in your steadfastness, otherwise you will kill me” (Bishop Theophan).

Exegetes of the negative school, on the basis of parallel passages (Acts 17:14; 18:5; 1 Cor 4:17; 16:10 and others), raise objections concerning the sending of Timothy to Thessalonica. Yet these passages only confirm it. According to Acts, Paul’s meeting with Timothy is implied (17:14-15), as is Timothy’s mission to Macedonia (18:5). Here, in 1 Thess 3:1-8, this meeting and mission are stated positively.

Rosanow N.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

Timothy, returning from Thessalonica, brought good news about the Thessalonians. This comforted the Apostle, for he lives only in the awareness that they, like other Christians, stand firm in the Christian faith.

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

“We live.” Everyone over whom misfortune has weighed and then passed away speaks so of himself. Uncertainty about the Thessalonians caused the Apostle mortal sorrow. Now this had passed. The stone fell from his heart, and he felt himself revived.

Or it may be taken thus: my circumstances are as heavy as death, so that I can say, “I die daily” (1 Cor 15:31). But, having received good news about you, I came to life. Everything is forgotten. Everything counts for nothing, when you stand.

The breath of life came upon us. Or again: the life of the Apostles is the progress of the Gospel and of faith in Christ. There lies their soul. Hearing of the Thessalonians’ unshakenness in the faith, the Apostle says: that is life for us, when we are faithful to the Lord.

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“He did not say, ‘we took courage,’ but what? ‘Now we live.’ By this he shows that we consider nothing else death for ourselves but their stumbling, and life to be their progress” (Chrysostom), “their steadfastness in faith and standing in Christ” (Theodoret, Oecumenius).

“If you stand in the Lord.” To stand in the Lord is to believe in Him unshakably, to cleave to Him, and to follow His commandments without deviation. “Those stand in the faith who preserve unshaken faith in Him and lead a life in accordance with faith” (Oecumenius).

The Lord is the source and element of life. Those who stand in Him are rooted in Him, joined and united with Him, and hidden in Him in heart and thoughts.

“If” does not signify doubt, but rather complete certainty that the Thessalonians not only stand, but will stand in the Lord. It is confidence in their unshakable firmness. If there were no such confidence, there would not be the outpouring of joy mentioned.

Doubt would have killed it at its very birth. Yet one may suppose that, by using such a turn of speech, the Apostle also secretly introduces an exhortation: see then, stand firm. Do not shake my confidence in your steadfastness, otherwise you will kill me.

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Greek text, 8 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. ὅτι
    hoti
    that
    G3754 · ὅτι
  2. νῦν
    nyn
    now
    G3568 · νῦν
  3. ζῶμεν
    zōmen
    I live
    G2198 · ζάω
  4. ἐὰν
    ean
    if
    G1437 · ἐάν
  5. ὑμεῖς
    hymeis
    you
    G4771 · σύ
  6. στήκετε
    stēkete
    I stand fast
    G4739 · στήκω
  7. ἐν
    en
    in
    G1722 · ἐν
  8. Κυρίῳ
    kyriō
    lord
    G2962 · κύριος