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2 Corinthians 11:21Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

I seek according to dishonour, as if we had been weak in this part. Wherein if any man dare (I speak foolishly), I dare also.

Douay-Rheims

κατα ατιμιαν λεγω ως οτι ημεις ησθενησαμεν εν ω δ αν τις τολμα εν αφροσυνη λεγω τολμω καγω

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

8 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

This is what he means to say: “Can we not do the same? Yet we do not. Why then do you receive them, as though we could not do the same? It is blameworthy to endure even foolish people. But to endure those who so despise you, rob you, exalt themselves, and strike you has neither excuse nor defense. This is a new kind of deception. Other deceivers both give and flatter, but these deceive, take, and insult.” When, because of the false report spread about him by the false apostles, he was forced to speak about his deeds, this was grievous and unpleasant to him. He refused it and never wished to proclaim his struggles. On the contrary, he openly called himself a blasphemer and persecutor.

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Yet when he saw complete necessity to stop the mouths of deceivers and somewhat calm the disciples, then, after much else, he began to speak in this way: “But in whatever anyone is bold, I speak in foolishness, I also am bold.” See what a soul that loves God. He calls this matter not only boldness, but also senselessness. He teaches us never to publicize our deeds without necessity, when no one compels us to do so, even if there are among us some who have done something good.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

“To my shame I say that we were too weak for this.” Why, he says, do you endure them? Is it as though we are weak and cannot treat you in the same way? No. We too can deal with you just as arrogantly, but we do not wish to do so at all. Thus he lays the whole blame for the false apostles’ insolence upon the Corinthians’ servility. For you, he says, by your too slavish submission, are the cause both of their arrogance and of these words of ours. “But in whatever anyone is bold, I speak in foolishness, I also am bold.” See, he again calls his action boldness and foolishness. He all but says: I am entering upon this from necessity. And how many other qualifications did he set forth before this? He does this to teach us not to resort to such speech unless necessity requires it. Therefore he says: if anyone dares to boast of anything, I also dare. For the word “boast” is understood. Then he enumerates the things in which they boast.

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

Therefore, since they do all to you, for your glory, what we did not do to you, we have appeared almost powerless in such matters, so as to preserve you from this. Since Saint Paul found an occasion to speak against these very apostles, who were Hebrews, he also speaks of those who boldly boasted in the name of Abraham.

"In whatever anyone dares to boast, I speak in foolishness, I also dare."

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

“For you endure it if someone enslaves you, if someone devours you, if someone takes from you improperly, if someone strikes you in the face, if someone exalts himself. I speak according to dishonor.” The Apostle has shown that his opponents vainly boast of despising money. For this reason he used the expressions, “if someone devours you” and “if someone takes from you improperly.” And “if someone strikes you in the face” means: if someone treats you contemptuously and insults you. For the Apostle added, “I speak according to dishonor,” that is, I said this because of the dishonor they inflict upon you. “As though we had been weak.” You think of us as though we do none of these things from weakness.

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“In whatever anyone is bold, I speak foolishly, I also am bold.” The Apostle softened what he intended to say by calling it madness. Yet he makes clear that he dares not to insult them, not to devour them, not to take from them, but to set forth his own labors. First of all he sets forth what they regarded as worthy of honor, teaching that even in this they have no advantage over him.

Ivanov A.V.

19th centuryChurch Father

"I speak foolishly; I also dare." While the false teachers, with their characteristic boldness and pleasure, praised themselves and displayed their supposed merits, Paul resolved on self-praise only out of necessity. At the same time, he considered such an action on his part unreasonable.

Michail Cheraskov

19th centuryChurch Father

Saint Paul is authorized to act with severity by his apostolic rank (2 Cor 10:12-12:18). The Apostle defends and proves the certainty of this high rank by pointing to his preaching without charge (2 Cor 11:1-21). “I am jealous over you with the jealousy of God, for I betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ. And I think that I am in no respect inferior to the chief Apostles.” “Did I sin in humbling myself so that you might be exalted, because I preached the Gospel of God to you without charge?” “In everything I have kept myself, and will keep myself, from being burdensome to you. This boasting shall not be taken from me in the regions of Achaia.” I do this not from lack of love for you, that is, not from proud independence of you.

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I do it to remove every pretext from the greedy false apostles who deceive you and boast of being like me. “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.” And “you, being sensible people,” this is irony, “gladly endure the senseless. You endure it when someone enslaves you, when someone devours you, when someone takes from you, when someone exalts himself, when someone strikes you in the face. To my shame I say that we were too weak for this.” I speak to our mutual shame: mine, ironically, and yours, by way of reproof. The Apostle speaks as though saying: There is nothing to be done; I must admit that I was not capable of the actions just listed. In general, I was not distinguished among you by those showy qualities with which the false apostles tried to glitter, and by which they evidently blinded you. But how are you not ashamed at your inability to distinguish true worth from false? How could you forget everything that revealed in me the true Apostle of Christ?

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

At the end of the chapter the Apostle proves the truth of his apostleship by what he endured in the Gospel. After a concluding and transitional qualification, he lists here many of his afflictions. Some of them are mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles. Others are found only here, or in other epistles, in the form of hints. The starting point here is also comparative, but the comparison is strange, because it is not greatness that is compared, but suffering. “Why so?” asks Bishop Theophan. “Because it would somehow be offensive to the extraordinary gifts themselves to prove the false apostles’ falsity, and his own true apostleship, by their absence from them.

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For this it was enough to show by deed that they protect themselves and try to extract their own gain from everything, while wearing the mask of ministers of Christ. But suffering for Christ, which is essentially necessary for true ministers of Christ, they never suffered, and they do not know how to set foot on this path.” “In labors, in prisons, in deaths often.” The labors and sufferings of Paul’s apostleship are beyond description. According to Clement, bishop of Rome, he was imprisoned seven times. He was exposed to mortal danger many times. Five times he was beaten with thirty-nine blows, so that no extra blow should be given beyond what the law allowed (Deut 25:3). Of the three beatings with rods, only one is mentioned in Acts. That case, it seems, was a special one (Acts 16:22). He was stoned almost to death in Lystra (Acts 14:19). The Apostle often traveled by sea. During one of three shipwrecks, he was carried by the waves in the deep for a night and a day, probably after grasping some fragment of the ship. The false teachers did not wish to suffer for Christ. Therefore they boasted of certain external distinctions, knowing how to present them as exalted before the inexperienced Corinthians. For example, they said they were the seed of Abraham, heirs of the great promises given to Abraham. But the Apostle had already said that this boasting was fleshly (verse 18). Now he shows that he too possesses all these supposed fleshly advantages. “Having shown his equality with them in this, he shows his superiority in voluntary achievements” (Theodoret).

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

“What the Apostle has said is not clear” (Chrysostom). To clarify it, let us return to what came before. The Apostle showed how slavishly the false apostles were received by the Corinthians. Let us ask ourselves how this could have been possible. We shall find no answer except that they must have displayed certain showy perfections. These made a strong impression on the Corinthians and disposed them to submit to them in this way. Saint Paul pointed to these advantages in the words, “many boast according to the flesh” (verse 18). He indicates what “according to the flesh” means in the following verse 22: that they are Hebrews, Israelites, and the seed of Abraham. In some way they managed to present these titles as very valuable in the eyes of the Corinthians.

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The Corinthians therefore treated them with such servility. Bringing this to the Corinthians’ mind, the Apostle says: Yes, and what about us? Have we already become nothing among you? Have we become weak, seeming to you feeble, without dignity, and insignificant? No, this is unjust. For if someone dares to display some showy fleshly advantage, I dare to do so no less than he. Then he enumerates the advantages which the false apostles presented, adding at the same time that he possesses them all. They lack only one thing: sufferings for Christ the Lord. They are ready to boast in such trifles, and for them to be honored and to devour the possessions of others. But as soon as suffering is required, they flee away, for they lack boldness for this. By this consideration the Apostle’s speech falls into order and receives fitting clarity. “I speak according to dishonor,” κατα ατιμιαν, according to dishonor. Whose dishonor is meant? One may understand either the Apostle’s dishonor or that of the Corinthians. The Apostle’s dishonor in this sense: I say this because of the dishonor inflicted upon me by your attitude toward the false apostles. As though I possessed nothing of what they boast in, and for which you have become so enslaved to them! The Corinthians’ dishonor in this sense: I say this to your shame. How can you fail to see that everything in which they boast is also found in me? Yet they demanded excessive sacrifices from you, while I demanded nothing from you. I only entreated you: be reconciled to God, be saved. “What could be worse, and what dominion more unbearable, than this? Those who have taken from you property, freedom, and honor do not even then become gentle. They do not at least treat you as slaves, but behave more contemptuously than toward the lowest bondman. Therefore you deserve no excuse. You despise those who humble themselves for you, in order to exalt you. Yet you admire those who exalt themselves over you, in order to abase you” (Chrysostom).

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Greek text, 18 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. κατὰ
    kata
    down from
    G2596 · κατά
  2. ἀτιμίαν
    atimian
    disgrace
    G819 · ἀτιμία
  3. λέγω
    legō
    I say
    G3004 · λέγω
  4. ὡς
    hōs
    as
    G5613 · ὡς
  5. ὅτι
    hoti
    that
    G3754 · ὅτι
  6. ἡμεῖς
    hēmeis
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  7. ἠσθενήκαμεν
    ēsthenēkamen
    I am weak
    G770 · ἀσθενέω
  8. Ἐν
    en
    in
    G1722 · ἐν
  9. ᾧ
    hō
    who
    G3739 · ὅς, ἥ
  10. δ᾽
    d
    but
    G1161 · δέ
  11. ἄν
    an
    an untranslatable word that makes a statement contingent
    G302 · ἄν
  12. τις
    tis
    any one
    G5100 · τις
  13. τολμᾷ
    tolma
    I dare
    G5111 · τολμάω
  14. ἐν
    en
    in
    G1722 · ἐν
  15. ἀφροσύνῃ
    aphrosynē
    want of sense
    G877 · ἀφροσύνη
  16. λέγω
    legō
    I say
    G3004 · λέγω
  17. τολμῶ
    tolmō
    I dare
    G5111 · τολμάω
  18. κἀγώ
    kagō
    I also
    G2504 · κἀγώ