The Church Fathers on this verse

2 Thessalonians 1:9Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Who shall suffer eternal punishment in destruction, from the face of the Lord and from the glory of his power:

Douay-Rheims

οιτινες δικην τισουσιν ολεθρον αιωνιον απο προσωπου του κυριου και απο της δοξης της ισχυος αυτου

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The Church Fathers on this verse

8 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

There are many people who place their good hopes not in refraining from sins, but in supposing that Gehenna is not as fearful as it is said to be. They think it is weaker than the threat declared to us, and temporary rather than eternal, and they speculate much about this. Meanwhile I can present many proofs, and even derive from the very words of Scripture about Gehenna, that it is not only no weaker than the threats represent it, but far more terrible. However, I will not now begin a discourse on this. The fear stirred in us by the words alone about Gehenna is enough, even if we do not unfold their meaning. That it is not temporary, hear what Paul says here about people who do not know God and do not believe the Gospel.

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He says precisely that they "will suffer punishment, eternal destruction." How, then, can the eternal become temporary? "From the face," he says, "of the Lord." What does this mean? The Apostle wishes to express that this can easily be done. Since wealthy people at that time were very arrogant, he says that no great effort is needed for this. It will be enough for God only to come and appear, and punishment and torment will overtake all the guilty. His coming will bring joy to some and torment to others. Where will Gehenna be? In my opinion, somewhere outside this whole world. As royal prisons and mines are far away, so Gehenna will be somewhere outside this universe. Therefore let us ask not where it is, but how to avoid it. Nor should you disbelieve future punishments on the grounds that God does not punish everyone here. He is compassionate and long-suffering, and therefore He threatens and does not immediately cast into Gehenna. "I do not desire the death of the sinner" (Ezek 18:32), He says. If there is no death for the sinner, then this was said in vain. I know that for you discourse on Gehenna is most unpleasant. But for me there is nothing more pleasant than this.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

"They shall suffer punishment, eternal destruction." Where, then, are the Origenists, who spin fables about an end to torments? Paul called it, that is, the torment, eternal. How, then, can the eternal be temporary for you? "From the face of the Lord and from the glory of His power." Here the Apostle shows the ease with which this will happen. For this, he says, no special effort is needed. It is enough for God to appear, and punishment will overtake all the disobedient. The mere sight of Him and His coming will be light for some and punishment for others. For He will not simply come, but with mighty glory. His glory will not be without power, nor His power without glory. That is, He will appear as the Almighty King.

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

For they will undergo punishment, and not a temporary one. That age will not be temporary, but they will be in eternal destruction, "from the face of our Lord Jesus Christ," who endured mockery from them and suffered insults at their hands. And they will be separated "from the glory of His power," that is, from the glory with which the angels and the powers surrounding Him will be clothed.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

"Those who will suffer punishment, eternal destruction from the face of the Lord and from the glory of His power. When He comes to be glorified in His saints and to be marveled at in all who have believed." The Apostle showed more precisely the greatness of the punishment by calling it "eternal." But he also made visible the glory of those who have believed by saying that God Himself will be glorified in them and made wondrous. Since in the present life some remain in suffering and labors, while others live wickedly and enjoy abundant goods, on the day of judgment the righteous will be proclaimed and counted worthy of crowns. Those who lived wickedly will be delivered to torment.

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Therefore he rightly said: "when He comes to be glorified in His saints and to be marveled at in all who have believed." For then all will marvel at the Judge's just sentence. "Because our testimony among you was believed, in that day." The words "in that day" must be referred to what was said above. For He will be "marveled at" in "all who have believed in that day." By "testimony" the Apostle meant the preaching, and he said that they believed this testimony.

Michail Cheraskov

19th centuryChurch Father

All three chapters of the Epistle are bound together by one common thought that pervades them. It concerns the second coming of Christ the Savior to earth and His dread judgment upon the human race. The first chapter may be called introductory. In it the Apostle first unfolds the good side of the fact that the minds of the Thessalonians are so firmly occupied with the question of the Lord Jesus Christ's coming to earth. He does not complain of the Thessalonians for this. On the contrary, he gives thanks to God for them. Strengthened by the thought of the coming righteous judgment of God, they endure all persecutions and afflictions with heroic patience and faith. Thus he even boasts of them in the churches of God.

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In this very patience of theirs there is visible proof that the righteous judgment of God will surely come. The Lord Jesus, appearing from heaven with the angels of His power, in flaming fire will take vengeance on the Thessalonians' persecutors, and in general on all who have not known God and do not obey the Gospel of the Lord.

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

Defining the recompense for sinners, the Apostle says that it will consist in flaming fire. It will concern first those who have not known God, and also those who do not obey the Gospel preaching. All these will be removed from the face of God and from His glory. In addition, each will be subjected to a particular punishment and to eternal destruction. "Note the Apostle's wisdom," says St. John Chrysostom. "He did not say here, 'those who afflict us,' but, 'those who do not obey the Gospel.' That is, he says that if not in vengeance for you, then in vengeance for Himself the Lord must necessarily subject them to punishment. Thus all this is said to give greater certainty that the persecutors must in any case be punished.

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There are many people who suppose that Gehenna is not so fearful, and moreover that it is temporary. Meanwhile I can present proofs from every side that it is not only no weaker than it is represented in the threats, but even more terrible. To be assured that it is not temporary, let us hear what the holy Apostle Paul says here about people who do not know God and do not believe the Gospel. He says that they will receive eternal destruction." To this His Grace Theophan adds: "In the times of the Apostles, those who did not believe in God were the pagans, while those who did not obey the Gospel were chiefly the Jews (Rom 10:3, 16, 21; 1 Thess 2:15-16). Perhaps St. Paul also understood it this way. But if we look at our own time through the Apostle's word, we will have to acknowledge that here the Apostle did not designate particular peoples. Rather, he designated moral and religious qualities and states by which those who destroy themselves can exist among all peoples."

Rosanow N.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

To strengthen the Thessalonians still more in patience, the Apostle says that believers' patient endurance of sufferings serves as a sign (ενδό'/μα) of the righteous judgment of God, already begun now. That is, God rewards the Thessalonians for their faith and love with the gift of patience, with the power to endure sufferings. If He begins His judgment with believers, He does so not to destroy them, but to show them worthy of the Kingdom of God. He gives them occasion to show their love for God (cf. 1 Pet 4:17-18). The Thessalonians can easily be convinced of this if only they recognize divine justice in general. By its power, those who suffer must receive rest, and oppressors punishment. To show the full certainty of this last judgment, the Apostle even depicts its whole setting.

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This judgment will take place when the Lord Jesus Christ appears in all His glory. Like God on Sinai and in the bush, He will appear in the brightness of fire. He will punish those who have not known God, because they did not wish to know Him, and those who did not receive the Gospel. He will punish them with eternal destruction. And this will be when, the Apostle again adds for the consolation of the Thessalonians, Christ is glorified in His saints. That is, He will show His majesty in their glorification and communicate His glory to them. He will appear wondrous and will awaken wonder toward Himself in all creation by what He accomplishes in all believers. Therefore He will do this also in the Thessalonians, in whom the Apostle's testimony concerning Christ met with full faith.

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

Here the Apostle explains what the vengeance will consist of and how it will overtake them. “They shall suffer punishment,” that is, they shall bear the righteous punishment due for their deeds.

This punishment will be exceedingly painful. It cannot be characterized better than by calling it eternal destruction.

The words “affliction to those who afflict” point only to something painfully unpleasant. “Inflicting vengeance” allows one to foresee the dread character of the sentence of punishment, but does not define it.

“In flaming fire,” if these words are understood as the instrument of punishment, more fully defines what kind of punishment it will be.

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Yet here there still remains some expectation that the torments may cease. But when he says, “They shall suffer punishment, eternal destruction,” he completes the depiction of the bitter lot of unbelievers and sinners.

He finally strikes them down by sentencing them to eternal lack of consolation. Eternal destruction, previously “complete ruin” (1 Thess 5:3), is eternal perishing.

They will feel that they are utterly perishing, and yet they will carry the conviction that they will never perish. At every moment they will be, as it were, born anew for fresh torments.

“They will suffer and not be consumed. The very fire will in some manner regenerate them, so that it may then devour them” (Ambrosiaster).

“There are many people who place good hopes not in abstaining from sins, but in supposing that Gehenna is not as terrible as people say.

They think it is milder than the Gehenna with which we are threatened, and that it is temporary, not eternal. They reason much about this.

Yet from every side I can present proofs that it is not only not milder than it is presented in the threats, but even far more terrible.

The fear stirred up by the mere words about Gehenna is enough to confirm this, even if we do not unfold their meaning. To be assured that it is not temporary, hear what St. Paul says here.

He speaks about people who do not know God and do not believe the Gospel. He says that they shall suffer eternal destruction. How then can what is eternal become temporary?” (Chrysostom).

“Where, then, are the Origenists, who invent myths about the end of torments?” (Theophylact).

“From the face of the Lord,” according to a Hebrew idiom, means “from the Lord,” from the Lord Himself, and not through intermediaries.

They will personally hear the sentence from Him and by His power will be cast into Gehenna. A similar meaning appears in Acts, where there is expectation of times of refreshing “from the face of the Lord” (Acts 3:20).

He did not simply say “from the Lord,” but “from the face of the Lord,” to signify the terror of the Lord as Judge for unbelievers and sinners.

It also signifies the incorruptibility of the judgment and vengeance. It will be terrible for them to look upon the Lord’s face. It will drive them away, or they will flee, only to avoid meeting His face.

For His eyes are “a flame of fire” (Rev 19:12). “From the glory of His might” means from His glorious power, or from His mighty glory.

This expresses the dread majesty of the almighty Judge as God. “He will not simply come, but with mighty glory.

His glory will not be without power, and His power will not be without glory. That is, He will appear as the all-powerful King” (Theophylact).

The face signifies terror, but terror without power is nothing. In the Judge on the last day both will be manifest. Unbelievers and sinners will see not only dread and implacable anger on the face of the Lord the Judge.

They will also see boundless power, which will punish them by casting them into torment, from which no one will ever rescue them.

They will feel both. They will be pierced by the sense of His terror and of the boundless power that punishes. Crushed by this feeling, they will be driven away from Him like lightning.

This will happen as soon as the dread sentence of their lot proceeds from His mouth: “Depart from Me.” Then they will be cast down into Gehenna.

But the same face and the same power will pour inexpressible relief into the hearts of all who believed and remained faithful to the faith.

St. Chrysostom writes: “The Apostle wishes here to express that the punishment of sinners will be carried out easily. For this no great effort is needed.

It will be enough only for the Lord to come and appear, and punishment and torment will overtake all the guilty. His coming will bring joy to some, and torment to others.”

Some heterodox Western interpreters paraphrase the words “from the face of the Lord and from the glory of His might” in this way: “being removed from the face of the Lord and from His glory.”

They suppose that eternal torment will consist in this. This thought is unsuitable to the structure of the speech here, and in general it is incorrect.

Certainly, future punishments will be made heavier by the fact that sinners will be removed from the face of God. The righteous will be delighted by the vision of Him.

Yet the punishments will not consist in this alone. Their outward condition will be without consolation, not only because of the absence of good things, but also because of positive torments.

Likewise the blessedness of the righteous, together with the all-blessed vision of God, will also have an outward condition wholly fitting to that vision.

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Passages read together with this verse.

The original text

Greek text, 16 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. οἵτινες
    hoitines
    whosoever
    G3748 · ὅστις, ἥτις
  2. δίκην
    dikēn
    justice
    G1349 · δίκη
  3. τίσουσιν
    tisousin
    I pay
    G5099 · τίνω
  4. ὄλεθρον
    olethron
    ruin
    G3639 · ὄλεθρος
  5. αἰώνιον
    aiōnion
    eternal
    G166 · αἰώνιος
  6. ἀπὸ
    apo
    from
    G575 · ἀπό
  7. προσώπου
    prosōpou
    the face
    G4383 · πρόσωπον
  8. τοῦ
    tou
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  9. Κυρίου
    kyriou
    lord
    G2962 · κύριος
  10. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  11. ἀπὸ
    apo
    from
    G575 · ἀπό
  12. τῆς
    tēs
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  13. δόξης
    doxēs
    honor
    G1391 · δόξα
  14. τῆς
    tēs
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  15. ἰσχύος
    ischyos
    strength
    G2479 · ἰσχύς
  16. αὐτοῦ
    autou
    he
    G846 · αὐτός