The Church Fathers on this verse

Job 8:4Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Although thy children have sinned against him, and he hath left them in the hand of their iniquity:

Douay-Rheims

אִם־בָּנֶ֥יךָ חָֽטְאוּ־ל֑וֹ וַֽ֝יְשַׁלְּחֵ֗ם בְּיַד־פִּשְׁעָֽם׃

Hebrew (Masoretic text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

3 Church Fathers comment on this verse

Gregory the Great

6th centuryChurch Father

Even if your children have sinned against Him and He has allowed them to be engulfed by their own iniquities, if you earnestly seek God in the early hours and present your case before the Most High, if you remain pure in thought and conduct, He will surely awaken you and grant peace to the residence of your righteousness (Job 8:4-6). It appears as though the false preachers have addressed the afflicted faithful, urging them to examine their lives and recognize any wrongdoings they shared with those who have passed on. They insist that had these wrongs not displeased the Creator of all, He would not have allowed so many losses to occur while calamity swirled around them.

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This implies that those left to their own sins have been abandoned due to their refusal to adhere to the righteous path.

Moreover, they encourage, if you strive with God at dawn and implore the Most High, suggesting that heretics, believing they possess the light of truth, call on the Holy Church to rise from the night of falsehood into the morning of divine clarity, so that through the knowledge of God, they might flourish like the dawn. Through heartfelt prayer, they aim to cleanse their past sins. If you lead a life marked by purity of thought and integrity in action, He will assuredly awaken you—indicating that He currently withholds His protective power amid your afflictions, as though you are asleep and seeking help while continuing to err. He will pacify the home of your righteousness, meaning He will remove the burdens of this life and swiftly provide you with rest.

This misunderstanding arises because people mistakenly perceive temporary pleasures as unique blessings from God. They pursue these fleeting joys while anxiously promising others that they too can attain similar rewards. Consequently, they often either pledge support in times of loss or entice their listeners with promises of even greater worldly rewards. This sentiment is openly echoed by Bildad when he adds further:

Didymus the Blind

4th centuryTeacher of the Church

This companion misinterprets the scripture and is led astray by false teachings, claiming, ‘Although you yourself have not sinned, your sons, who lacked awareness of the support they needed from one another, are not held accountable.’ Yet it appears he maintained that due to their own transgressions, God handed them over to the consequences of their wrongdoing, referencing the sins that led to the demise of his children. Thus, he indicates that since the sons committed sins and were favored by Job, the daughters must have sinned as well. This interpretation, once again, should be viewed through his perspective.

Ireneus (Orda)

19th centuryCommentator

Baldad, the second of Job's friends, presents a similar flawed perspective as Eliphaz, suggesting that earthly joy results from righteousness. He attempts to convince Job that his lament over the loss of his possessions and children is unwarranted. Should his children meet death, it must be due to their guilt before God; otherwise, a just Lord would not have permitted their demise. However, if Job is indeed innocent and seeks God in prayer, he will receive abundant blessings. An ancient poem, rooted in the wisdom of the ancestors, supports Baldad's viewpoint. Just as the papyrus, which flourishes during the floods of the Nile, quickly shrivels when the waters recede, so do the wicked, who reach the pinnacle of earthly delight, face sudden destruction.

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Thus, Job will not be abandoned by the Lord. According to Baldad, Job bears a double guilt before God: for himself and for his children. This notion undermines Job's last source of solace—the understanding that he was a good father, deserving of better for his children.

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