The Church Fathers on this verse

John 14:11Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Believe you not that I am in the Father and the Father in me?

Douay-Rheims

πιστευετε μοι οτι εγω εν τω πατρι και ο πατηρ εν εμοι ει δε μη δια τα εργα αυτα πιστευετε μοι

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

13 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

"Believe that I am in the Father and the Father in Me." You who hear of the Father and the Son ought not to seek any other proof of Their kinship according to essence.

But if this is not sufficient for you as proof of Their equal honor and consubstantiality, then learn it at least from the works.

Thus the words, "He who has seen Me has seen My Father," were not spoken about the works. Otherwise He would not have said afterward, "But if not, believe Me because of the works themselves."

Then, showing that He can perform not only these works but also others far greater, He speaks of this with extraordinary force.

He does not say, "I can perform works even greater than these." Rather, what is much more marvelous, He says that He can give others authority to perform works greater than these works.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

"Believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me." That is, you who hear of the Father and the Son should seek no other proof of Their kinship according to essence. But if this is not enough for you as proof of consubstantiality and equal honor, and that the Father appears in My being and I in the being of the Father, then at least believe Me because of the works. For the works are God's.

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

“Believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me.”

He now speaks clearly, and more than this, He commands at last that we should think in no other way than the Word of truth Himself wills. He is consubstantial (ὁμοούσιος) with His Begetter, without any intermediary between Them and without any division of the One from the Other by a difference of nature.

He is one with Him, so that the nature (φύσις) of the Son is in the essence (οὐσία) of Him Who begot Him. Likewise the nature of God the Father is found and shines forth in the essence of the Begotten. This, without doubt, may also be seen among us.

We are not different in nature from our children, nor are we separated from them by a difference of nature, though we are divided by the distinction of bodies. Therefore one who looks upon the son born of blessed Abraham can see Abraham himself.

Yet among men there is a very great division. Each appears in his own form and is, as it were, gathered into himself as a separate individual. In his body he is not inwardly joined to others, although the nature common to all is one.

But one must not think so concerning the true God. The Father is personally and distinctly Father, not Son. Likewise He Who is begotten of Him is Son, not Father, and the Spirit is personally Spirit.

Yet since the Holy Trinity is united and gathered into one nature of Godhead, we have one God. Let no one introduce a complete division of each of those so designated, nor suppose that Their being is wholly separate.

Rather, we believe that each is what He is, and is named by us according to His particular hypostasis. We understand the Son as being from the Father, that is, proceeding ineffably from His essence and abiding in Him.

We understand the Holy Spirit in the same way. He is truly from God by nature, yet He is in no way separated from His essence. He proceeds from Him and always abides in Him, being given to the saints through Christ. All things are through the Son in the Holy Spirit.

The mind of the holy fathers taught us this rightness and truth of dogmas. We have also been taught to speak and think in this way by the Holy Scriptures themselves. The Lord assures us that we come to this blameless faith rightly when He says, “Believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me.”

“But if not, believe Me for the works’ sake.”

Here He clearly declares that He would never have done or accomplished what belongs to the divine nature alone, unless He also belonged to it by nature. Notice with what firmness and truth He says this.

He demands faith not so much on account of His words, though He knew no falsehood, as on account of His works. I will say why. It is not hard for a frenzied or deranged man to use words fitting to God and to utter something senseless.

But who could ever make use of the deed and power proper to God? To which creature can the Father give His glory? Do we not reckon it the Father’s glory to possess the power to accomplish all things and to have almighty strength?

This belongs to nothing else numbered among creatures. Therefore Christ, wishing to give assurance concerning Himself through necessary and irrefutable proofs, commands faith from His works themselves.

He commands us to believe that He is in the Father and, in turn, has the Father in Himself. This means that in His own existence He bears the Father’s nature, as His true offspring, as the true fruit, as the Son Who has appeared from the Father by nature.

The Church of Christ, glorious in the rightness of her dogmas, holds this view of the Only-begotten. Yet the God-fighting heretics persuade those who hear and accept their destructive words to think otherwise.

Raging against Christ with their accusations, the wretched ones strive to surpass one another not in zeal for piety, but in being more impious than another and in saying something most absurd.

They drink wine from Sodom and gather bitter grapes from Gomorrah (Deut 32:32). They do not receive their thoughts about Him from the Divine Spirit or from revelation from the Father, but from the dragon’s head (cf. Ps 73:13).

Therefore they have no sound thoughts at all. They say things that make the souls of their hearers miserable, dragging them down into Hades and the abyss below.

They even dare to set this forth in books, thereby making the wickedness within them, as it were, immortal.

Since enough has been said here to help hearers think rightly about the Son, we should not have mentioned their teaching at all. Yet simple souls may be carried away by their pitiful words.

For this reason I considered it necessary to overthrow their harmful chatter with true dogmas and to show how easily refuted is the slander with which they try to surround the Son, or rather the whole divine nature.

I found this in the book of our opponents. While examining the words under interpretation, after certain other arguments I found these exact words: “Thus the Son, being essentially encompassed by the Father (οὐσιωδῶς περιεχόμενος ὑπὸ τοῦ Πατρός), has the Father in Himself speaking the words and working the signs. This He explains in the words, ‘What I speak to you, I do not speak from Myself, but the Father Who abides in Me does the works Himself’ (Jn 14:10).”

Such is their empty chatter. If we too must present something able to oppose their words and expose their reprobate mind (Rom 1:28), I will say this.

I do not quite understand what their expression means when they say that “the Son is essentially encompassed by the Father.” It has, to tell the truth, a very great obscurity. Their argument seems ashamed and hides itself in darkness, lacking courage to be expressed clearly.

As the Savior says, “He who does evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest he be exposed” (Jn 3:20). So every speech that signifies evil usually turns to dark expressions and avoids clear disclosure.

It does this lest the baseness and folly within it be revealed. What does this mean, then: “The Son is essentially encompassed by the Father”?

With all the strength I can, I will try to unfold this obscure expression. Perhaps it fears that, once clearly understood, it will reveal the malice of its author.

If it wishes to say that the Son appears in the Father’s essence as consubstantial with Him, and Himself has the Father wholly shining through in the nature of His Son, then we also agree with such reasoning.

Only the term “encompassing” (περιοχή), used of the Son, seems very inappropriate to us. But if it does not mean this, then the one who has spewed such blasphemy against Him is plainly blaspheming.

For such a man never admits the Son’s birth from the Father’s essence. He claims that the Son’s nature is enclosed by the Father’s nature like some limited body.

Is he not manifestly filled with madness carried to the utmost extreme? Though they call the Son God, they irrationally try to attribute bodily properties to Him.

Whatever is wholly bounded by some definition and measurement conceived in extension, so that it has a beginning and an end, must also be in some place. It must have quantity, form, and shape. Are these not properties of bodies?

Will He Who is above us then be conceived with us, as like us? Will He not prove akin to every other creature, having nothing more than it as regards limitation?

If so, according to our opponents’ senseless supposition, why does He frighten us in vain with the words, “You are from below, I am from above,” and again, “You are of this world, I am not of this world” (Jn 8:23)?

When He says of Himself that He is “from above” (ἄνωθεν), He does not simply mean “from heaven.” What advantage would He then have over the holy angels, if we find that they too are “from above,” taking the expression locally?

Rather, it indicates that He was begotten from the highest Essence, which rules over all. How then can He be true if He has bodily properties common with another creature?

How can He, together with things brought from non-being into being, be encompassed by the Father, if we must acknowledge that nothing can be outside Him?

The divine Psalmist, speaking by the Spirit the wholly true and hidden mysteries, says that the Son is absent from absolutely no place. By this he bears witness to His bodilessness and infinity, and to the fact that as God He is not contained by place.

“Where shall I go from Your Spirit, and where shall I flee from Your face? If I ascend into heaven, You are there. If I descend into Hades, You are present. If I take my wings in the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there Your hand shall guide me, and Your right hand shall hold me” (Ps 138:7-10).

These false teachers senselessly oppose their opinion to the revelations of the Spirit and subject the Only-begotten to limitation, though they ought to reason rightly and fittingly about this.

If His face, that is, the Spirit, fills the heavens, the ends of the earth, and even Hades, how is it not the height of folly to apply to Him the term “enclosure”?

If the Spirit is called the face of the Son and fills all things, how could He Himself be within the enclosure of His God and Father?

It is no less senseless to ascribe circumscription to the bodiless and to subject the infinite to measure. To say that He is essentially encompassed by God the Father means that He has a limited essence.

This is true of each of His creatures, to which we may boldly and truly ascribe being encompassed, since they are bodies, even if not like ours.

One must also consider this. If what is encompassed by something must be inside that which encompasses it, then it necessarily follows that the encompassed is conceived as smaller than the encompassing.

It appears limited, as though enclosed by the extent of something greater. What then will you say, most dear one? Having presented Himself as the image of God the Father and plainly said, “He who has seen Me has seen the Father,” He immediately added, “I am in the Father and the Father is in Me” (Jn 14:9-10).

If, according to you, He says that while being the imprint and image of Him Who begot Him, He is nevertheless essentially encompassed by Him, then does He not wish us to have the same conceptions of the Father that we have received concerning Him?

Therefore the Father too must be limited, since this exists in the Son. Let the heretic decide who is greater than Him. It is not fitting for me to say or think such a thing.

For the Son is not partly the Father’s image and partly not. If He has anything that alienates or mediates His complete likeness to the Father, He will be a partial image and not a complete one.

Can you show where Holy Scripture says this? We will certainly not follow your words and reject the rightness of the sacred dogmas.

I am amazed that they were not afraid to say this also: “As Paul had Christ in himself speaking and working miracles, in precisely the same way the Son had the Father in Himself speaking and working signs. Therefore He says, ‘Believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me. If not, believe for the works themselves.’”

Who will call a man a Christian who reasons and thinks in this way about Christ? He now clearly says that He is not truly God.

Having senselessly attributed to Him the measure proper to creatures, he proclaims Him to be some God-bearing and God-participating being, or a God born from God only by grace.

His aim is by every means and method to exclude Him completely from the essence of God the Father and to separate Him from the natural and essential unity that He has with His Father and God.

Can there be a higher degree of madness? Should we not shed tears of love over those surrendered to such unbridled impiety, as over the already dead and lost?

It is fitting to say, “Who will give water to my head and a fountain of tears to my eyes, that I may weep day and night for this people?” (Jer 9:1). Unceasing tears should indeed be shed over those who have adopted such a way of thinking.

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Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

Before, He reproved Philip alone. Now it is clear that he was not the only one who deserved reproof. "Believe Me because of the works themselves," He says, "that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me. For if we were separated from one another, we could in no way do works indivisibly."

John Damascene

8th centuryChurch Father

For with respect to the indescribable Godhead, we cannot speak of local distance as we do with ourselves. The hypostases are in one another, though not confused, but united.

This accords with the word of the Lord, who said: "I am in the Father and the Father in Me" (Jn 14:11).

Nor can we speak of difference in will, or thought, or action, or power, or anything else that produces in us an actual and complete division.

Therefore we do not speak of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit as three Gods, but more rightly as one God, the Holy Trinity.

For the Son and the Spirit are referred to one Cause, yet they are not compounded or confused, as Sabellius confused them.

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They are united, as we have said, without confusion. They abide together in one another and mutually penetrate one another without any mixture or fusion.

Thus they do not exist outside one another, nor are they divided in essence according to the division of Arius.

To speak briefly, the Godhead is undivided in those who are distinct. It is like three suns closely adjoining one another, separated by no distance, with one mingling and fusion of light.

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryChurch Father

"Believe Me, that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me." Believe My words, that the Father is contemplated in Me, and I in the Father. "But if not, believe Me for the works' sake." If it is not so, then believe Me because of the works themselves. If you do not believe Me for My words alone, then believe at least because of My works, since they are supernatural and proper to God alone. In the same way Jesus Christ had said before: "Even if you do not believe Me, believe My works" (Jn 10:38).

Alexander Gorsky

19th centuryChurch Father

Then, addressing His speech no longer to Philip alone but to all, He continues: Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me. But if this is not enough, believe Me because of My works themselves.

These works will not cease with His departure. Whoever believes in Him can perform still greater works. They already had this power, but it was small in comparison with the power of Jesus.

Jesus, offering them consolations, says that from the Father, to whom He is going, He will ask for power to perform miracles greater than those He Himself performed, such as the conversion of whole nations.

This is not all. If they faithfully follow His commandments, then when He is with the Father in heaven, through Him they may ask all things of the Father.

The Lord promised to send them another Helper, already known to them even now, who would never leave them as Jesus would.

Bogolepow D.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

Philip understands the words of Jesus Christ not as an actual contemplation of God the Father in Christ, but as His teaching His disciples about God the Father.

This does not satisfy him, and he asks the Lord to show the invisible God in some special, radiant theophany.

With some pain of soul Jesus answers His disciple who does not understand Him: "So long a time I have been with you, and you do not know Me, Philip?...

Do you not know that I am in the Father and the Father in Me?"

This truth, that God the Father is in His Son, Jesus Christ, and that the Son is in the Father, is revealed to men first from the teaching of Jesus Christ, and second, especially from His works...

Gladkow B.I.

19th centuryChurch Father

Christ told the Apostles that if they did not believe His words, that He is in the Father and the Father in Him, then they ought to believe this because of His works themselves. If He was compelled to refer to His works, this proves that the Apostles' faith was still very weak.

Lopuchin A.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

The Apostle Philip interrupted this divine discourse with a simple-hearted question. It showed how little even now the disciples understood the essence of their divine Teacher.

"Lord," he said, "show us the Father." To this Christ answered him with a deserved rebuke: "So long a time I have been with you, and you do not know Me, Philip?

He who has seen Me has seen the Father. How then do you say, 'Show us the Father'? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in Me?"

Then, referring to His teaching and to His works, which were possible only through the co-presence of the Father in Him, He began to reveal to them that the Holy Spirit would come...

Michail (Lusin)

19th centuryChurch Father

"Believe Me, then," the Lord concludes, turning from Philip to all the disciples, "that I am in the Father and the Father in Me"; see above.

"But if not," if My verbal assurance is not sufficient for you, which Philip's words apparently suggested, then believe Me because of the works themselves.

For these works are factual proofs of My unity with the Father (cf. Jn 5:19 and following; Jn 10:37 and following).

Thus the first path to knowledge of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Father, is the Lord's own testimony concerning Himself and the Father.

The second is His extraordinary works or miracles. The latter are proofs for those who do not believe the word. Therefore they have secondary significance, as the Lord Himself everywhere gives them.

Philaret (Gumilevski)

19th centuryChurch Father

So the Savior spoke, turning from Philip to all the disciples. How necessary He considers faith in His divine dignity for us.

This faith was especially necessary in the approaching time of the Savior's sorrows. His disciples had to be firmly convinced of His divine dignity, so as not to stumble over the sorrowful condition in which their Teacher would be.

If you are not yet so strong in spirit, the Lord was saying, that you can contemplate the Father in Me, then look at My works, My miracles, and My teaching.

They will pour upon you the light especially needed in the dark hours of temptations.

Yes, how easily the darkness of sorrows hides from our sight the brightest and loftiest thoughts.

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Believing soul, whether a storm of outward sorrows or a storm of inward sorrows rises against you, believe as firmly as possible, and cry out as often as possible: Son of God, You are almighty.

Save me, a poor sinner. And indeed, you will be saved.

Wlastow G.K.

19th centuryChurch Father

The Lord now addresses this concluding word of the part of His discourse, first directed to Philip, to all the disciples. Thus they might know that in the person of Philip He had spoken to all.

Even now the Lord sees the relative weakness of the apostles' faith. It is a weakness arising not from evil will, but from the natural weakness of human reason.

Therefore the Lord adds: "If not, believe Me because of the works themselves."

But then the Lord says that He is going away. The disciples are afraid, for they recognize both their weakness and their relative lack of understanding.

What, then, does the Lord promise them? He promises that they will do works greater than His works.

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What greatness He gives them! The Lord did not say that the disciples would preach a higher teaching, or that they would be above their Teacher (cf. Mt 10:24).

This was not possible, just as it is impossible for a messenger who speaks the words of the One who sent him to be greater than Him (Jn 13:16).

The one source of all wisdom is the Lord. His works were proof of the divinity of His being and of His words.

No words other than the words of God could be uttered by the mouths of God's messengers.

But to give the words of God, in the mouths of the disciples, power to subdue the world, the Lord grants them works as a witness to the nations.

These works would testify that those sent forth were clothed with power from on high.

Therefore the shadow of Peter as he passed by (Acts 5:15), and handkerchiefs from Paul's body (Acts 19:12), healed the sick.

Therefore they raised the dead and, by the laying on of hands, were counted worthy to bring down the gifts of the Holy Spirit upon those being baptized.

The Lord therefore says: "Greater works than these you will do, because I go to My Father."

A little later, on that same evening, He tells the disciples (Jn 14:16, 26; 16:7 and following) that He will send the Comforter from the Father, the Holy Spirit.

With this coming He connects the wisdom and power that would be manifested in the disciples.

For the highest development of man, purified by the Lord, was accomplished only through the great sacrifice of redemption and the glorious Resurrection of the Lord.

Compare Jn 7:39: "This He spoke concerning the Spirit... for Jesus was not yet glorified."

But to what works does the Lord refer as "greater" than those the Lord performed on earth? The Lord speaks of the conversion of the world.

He Himself, in poverty and humility, sowed the words whose fruits He sent the disciples to reap. The works were the Lord's, but He gave them to the disciples.

What are all healings compared with that shaking of the world accomplished by the disciples through the preaching of the Cross?

He, the God of love, offered the sacrifice with terrible sufferings. Yet victory over the world was entrusted, in the name of this sacrifice, to the disciples.

Therefore the Lord says: "Greater works than these you will do."

In the name of the Lord, the disciples bring healing into the decaying and disintegrating pagan world, and take possession of it through the preaching of Christ crucified.

This preaching is "to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, but to those who are called, the power of God and the wisdom of God" (1 Cor 1:23-24).

And this is "the victory that has overcome the world" (1 Jn 5:4).

Great is Your mercy, O Lord. You came to suffer and to be insulted, and You gave the glory and joy of the conversion of Gentiles and Jews to Your disciples.

Yet this glory is Yours, O Lord.

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Greek text, 20 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. πιστεύετέ
    pisteuete
    I believe
    G4100 · πιστεύω
  2. μοι
    moi
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  3. ὅτι
    hoti
    that
    G3754 · ὅτι
  4. ἐγὼ
    egō
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  5. ἐν
    en
    in
    G1722 · ἐν
  6. τῷ
    tō
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  7. Πατρὶ
    patri
    father
    G3962 · πατήρ
  8. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  9. ὁ
    ho
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  10. Πατὴρ
    patēr
    father
    G3962 · πατήρ
  11. ἐν
    en
    in
    G1722 · ἐν
  12. ἐμοί
    emoi
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  13. εἰ
    ei
    if
    G1487 · εἰ
  14. δὲ
    de
    but
    G1161 · δέ
  15. μή
    mē
    not
    G3361 · μή
  16. διὰ
    dia
    through
    G1223 · διά
  17. τὰ
    ta
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  18. ἔργα
    erga
    work
    G2041 · ἔργον
  19. αὐτὰ
    auta
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  20. πιστεύετε
    pisteuete
    I believe
    G4100 · πιστεύω