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John 6:61Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard; and who can hear it?

Douay-Rheims

ειδως δε ο ιησους εν εαυτω οτι γογγυζουσιν περι τουτου οι μαθηται αυτου ειπεν αυτοις τουτο υμας σκανδαλιζει

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11 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

“But Jesus, knowing in Himself that His disciples murmured at this,” and such knowledge of secret thoughts is proof of His divinity, says: “Does this offend you?”

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

Wishing to show them that, as God, the thoughts of their hearts were in no way hidden from Him, He says: “Does this offend you?”

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

Because of their very great ignorance, some who were being taught by Christ the Savior were scandalized at His words. They had heard Him say: "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the Flesh of the Son of Man and drink His Blood, you have no life in yourselves" (Jn 6:53).

They supposed that He was calling them to some beastlike cruelty. They thought He commanded them inhumanly to eat flesh and drink blood, and forced them to do what is dreadful even to hear.

They did not know the beauty of the mystery, nor the fair divine economy ordained concerning Him. Rather, they reasoned among themselves somewhat like this: how can a human body implant eternal life in our nature? What benefit for immortality can a body consubstantial with us bring?

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Therefore Christ, understanding their thoughts within them, for "all things are naked and open to His eyes" (Heb 4:13), again helps them. In many ways He guides them toward receiving what they did not yet know. He says to them: you are very foolishly scandalized by these words of Mine.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

Christ is the Son of Man, from the Virgin Mary. Therefore He began to be the Son of Man on earth, since He received flesh from the earth. Hence the prophetic saying: "Truth has sprung up from the earth."

What do His words mean: "When you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before"? There would be no question if He had said: "If you see the Son of God ascending to where He was before." But He says, "where He was before," as though, when He said this, He was not there.

Yet elsewhere He says: "No one has ascended into heaven except the Son of Man who came down from heaven, who is in heaven" (Jn 3:13). He did not say, "who was in heaven," but "the Son of Man, who is in heaven."

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What does this mean, if not that we should understand that Christ is one Person, the God-man, and not two? Otherwise our faith would be not in the Trinity, but in a quaternity.

Therefore Christ is one: Son of Man in time, yet one Christ by the unity of Person. He was in heaven when He spoke on earth. Thus the Son of Man was in heaven when the Son of God was on earth. The Son of God was on earth by receiving flesh; the Son of Man was in heaven in the unity of Person.

But Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples were murmuring about this (Jn 6:61). They spoke among themselves so that He would not hear them. Yet He, knowing them in Himself and hearing them in Himself, said: "Does this offend you, that I said, 'I give you My Flesh to eat and My Blood to drink'? Is this what offends you?" Cf. Jn 6:61, 51.

"What then, if you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?" (Jn 6:62). What does this mean? Did He resolve what troubled them? Did He disclose what had offended them? Yes, if only they could have understood.

They thought He was going to distribute His body. Therefore He told them that He would ascend into heaven, naturally, unharmed, meaning that His Body would remain whole and undivided.

"What then, if you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?" Plainly, then you will see that He does not distribute His body as you suppose. Plainly, then you will understand that His grace (gratia) is not eaten with the teeth.

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryChurch Father

This too serves as proof of His divinity, that He reveals their secrets, since they were murmuring secretly among themselves.

Bogolepow D.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

The hearers of Jesus Christ were even more scandalized by His teaching about believers eating His Flesh and drinking His Blood than by His words, "I came down from heaven." Yet they did not say this openly (6:61). They only murmured among themselves about the strangeness of His speech.

But Jesus Christ says: "Does this offend you? If it is hard for you to understand My word about eating My Flesh and drinking My Blood, how will you respond to something still harder for you to understand? How will you respond to the Son of Man ascending with His glorified Body to God the Father, where, as the Son of God, He was from eternity?"

Gladkow B.I.

19th centuryChurch Father

This discourse took place in Capernaum, in the synagogue, in the presence of the apostles and other disciples of Jesus. Now it was no longer the Pharisees and scribes, but many of His disciples, who quietly, almost in a whisper, said to one another: "What strange words! Who can listen to this?"

This murmuring was unnoticed by the others present in the synagogue, but it could not escape the all-knowing Jesus. He said to them: "Does this offend you? What then, if you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?"

"The speech is pathetically broken and requires a supplement, which should be this: if this offends you, will you not fall into still greater offense when you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?

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Here the Lord speaks of His ascent to the Father in the broad sense, as His ascent into glory through sufferings (Lk 24:26). In the visible sufferings lies the beginning of His glory. Having suffered, He died, rose again, and ascended.

It is precisely this starting point of His glory, His sufferings and shameful death, that He indicates here. It will be a cause of offense to the Jews still greater than the offense caused by His present discourse.

If you are now offended by My word about the bread of life, My Flesh, what will happen when you see My sufferings and shameful death? Will this not be a still greater offense to you, since, in the carnal tendency of your views, you do not understand that these sufferings and death are the path to My glory and the ascent to where I was before?" Bishop Michael, Explanatory Gospel.

Speaking to the murmuring disciples, the Lord says that the end of His earthly course will offend them still more. They will see Him crucified on the Cross, although this death on the Cross will be only the beginning of His ascent to where He was before.

The Lord said: "You think only of the earthly and the fleshly. You cannot free yourselves from it, even when I speak to you of heavenly things and of the salvation of your souls.

Understand, then, that true life, eternal life, is given not by bodily food, nor by the manna your fathers ate. It is given by that spiritual food, that heavenly bread, which I give you.

For true eternal life is the life of the spirit, not of the body. The spirit enlivens the body; the Spirit gives life, but not the flesh. The flesh profits nothing and does not lead to the blessedness of eternal life.

You think only of the earthly and fleshly. The words that I speak to you are spirit and life. They lead to the perfection of the spirit, to the perfection of your souls, and secure for you the blessedness of eternal life.

But faith in Me is needed to understand them. I see that there are unbelievers among you. They are the ones who do not understand Me. Since they do not understand Me, they do not follow Me.

By refusing to fulfill the will of God, they cannot come to Me. The will of My Father is that all should believe in Me and all should come to Me.

The one who comes to Me comes according to the will of My Father, and this coming is, as it were, given to him by the Father. But whoever rejects the will of God has not been granted by My Father to come to Me.

For this reason I told you that no one can come to Me unless it is granted him by My Father."

Lopuchin A.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

Because of its extraordinary character and depth, this great revelation about the New Testament manner in which humanity partakes of the Godhead seemed strange not only to the Jews, blinded as they were by prejudices and unbelief, but also to some of Christ’s closest followers. “Many of His disciples, hearing this, said, What strange words! Who can listen to this?” Christ’s new testimonies, intended to dispel the seed of doubt and unbelief arising in them, were in vain. They were not convinced, and “from that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.”

Michail (Lusin)

19th centuryChurch Father

“Knowing in Himself” means without the mediation of others; compare Jn 6:2 and the note there. The Lord clearly understood what was in the souls of His hearers. He read their thoughts and feelings in their hearts. The disciples (Jn 6:60) murmur, as in Jn 6:41. “At this” means at what He had said that was hard, offensive to them, and unbearable to their ear. “Does this offend you?” is a question expressing not so much surprise as sorrow over their blindness, and over the fleshly, sensory direction of all their views and hopes.

Philaret (Gumilevski)

19th centuryChurch Father

Verses 60-71 contain the Savior's discourse with the disciples. Verses 60-66 say: "Many of the disciples said: What strange words!" These disciples are not the chosen twelve of verse 67, nor are they the people.

Many of them were inwardly scandalized by what they heard in verse 61. They said among themselves: this is σκληρὸς λόγος, an unbearable speech, offensive to feeling, so that hardly anyone can listen to it.

The prediction of the Messiah's death shattered the pleasant dreams of a powerful kingdom of the Messiah, by which so many had comforted themselves. And now there were also words about giving His flesh as food. All this seemed too strange and unbearable.

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The disciples secretly exchanged words of mistrust among themselves (Jn 10:20). The Savior saw what was taking place in their souls. To instruct them, He says that with their own eyes they will see His ascension into heaven.

The disciples were scandalized that His flesh would be food. Equally, if not more, incomprehensible was that His body would ascend into heaven. But if they were convinced by the experience of their senses of the reality of the flesh's ascension, they should also believe that His power extends to making His flesh wondrous food for the faithful.

There is a similar instruction in Jn 3:12. "The Spirit gives life; the flesh profits nothing." By flesh and spirit some, such as Klee, understand a sensible and a spiritual way of thinking, showing in the first an incapacity for understanding spiritual things.

But the Savior is not speaking about what can find the truth. He is speaking about what can give life or bring no benefit. He wishes to clarify His words about the flesh and remove the cause of scandal.

Christ's Flesh gives life because in it there is the life-giving and all-powerful Spirit. But the flesh of which the Jews are thinking, can it be useful for anything? See 2 Cor 5:16; 1 Pet 3:18.

"The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life." His words referred to His body and blood. Therefore "words" should be replaced by "body and blood." His body and blood, of which He spoke, are spirit and life. The body bears the Spirit in itself; the blood bears life in itself.

Cyril of Alexandria and Leontius understood Christ's words in this way. "But there are some of you who do not believe." "For this reason I said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him by My Father."

Wlastow G.K.

19th centuryChurch Father

With sorrow the Lord Jesus turns to the disciples who were terrified by His words. According to Chrysostom, those words exceeded their weakness and caused them great fear. For "they thought that He was saying something above His dignity and exceeding His power." Cf. Mk 3:21.

But knowing their thoughts, He points them to something greater and says: "What then, if you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?" Will not an even greater terror fall upon you?

Yet the Lord does not desire fear. He desires faith and love, and those who were scandalized had neither. Human reasoning prevented them from believing. In their doubt, they did not even give themselves time to wait for the fulfillment of the words of One who was visibly endowed with higher powers.

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Therefore many of the disciples departed from the Lord (v. 66). Meanwhile the Son of Man and the Son of God, the one Christ, was revealing through His words both His future sufferings and His future glorious resurrection.

"I ascend," the Lord said to Mary, so that she might pass His words on to the disciples, "to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God" (Jn 20:17).

But those who could not believe deprived themselves of the joy of seeing the "ascent of the Son of Man." They deprived themselves of a portion with the Lord (Jn 13:8), because they did not understand that one must give oneself wholly to the Lord.

In due time He will also send understanding to the one who has faith. "You shall understand afterward," the Lord said to Peter.

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Greek text, 18 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. Εἰδὼς
    eidōs
    I know
    G1492 · εἴδω
  2. δὲ
    de
    but
    G1161 · δέ
  3. ὁ
    ho
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  4. Ἰησοῦς
    iēsous
    Jesus
    G2424 · Ἰησοῦς
  5. ἐν
    en
    in
    G1722 · ἐν
  6. ἑαυτῷ
    heautō
    himself
    G1438 · ἑαυτοῦ
  7. ὅτι
    hoti
    that
    G3754 · ὅτι
  8. γογγύζουσιν
    gongyzousin
    I whisper
    G1111 · γογγύζω
  9. περὶ
    peri
    about
    G4012 · περί
  10. τούτου
    toutou
    this
    G3778 · οὗτος
  11. οἱ
    hoi
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  12. μαθηταὶ
    mathētai
    a learner
    G3101 · μαθητής
  13. αὐτοῦ
    autou
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  14. εἶπεν
    eipen
    to say
    G2036 · ἔπω, ἐρῶ, εἶπον
  15. αὐτοῖς
    autois
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  16. Τοῦτο
    touto
    this
    G3778 · οὗτος
  17. ὑμᾶς
    hymas
    you
    G4771 · σύ
  18. σκανδαλίζει
    skandalizei
    I cause to stumble
    G4624 · σκανδαλίζω