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John 8:30Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

When he spoke these things, many believed in him.

Douay-Rheims

ταυτα αυτου λαλουντος πολλοι επιστευσαν εις αυτον

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

12 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

When He descended to lowly speech, then many believed in Him. After this, will you still ask why He speaks in lowly fashion? The evangelist clearly indicated the reason when he said, "As He spoke these things, many believed in Him."

Through this event He as it were cries out: Do not be troubled, hearer, if you hear something lowly. Those who, after such long teaching, did not believe that He is from the Father rightly had to hear lower speech, so that they might believe.

This also justifies what will be said later in a lowly manner. Therefore they believed, but not in the proper way. They believed simply and as it happened, captivated and calmed by the lowliness of His words.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

I have said that His hearers were more drawn by humble words. The evangelist also hints at this. "As He spoke these things," he observes, "many believed". He spoke "these things," that is, humble words, as though unworthy of His glory.

Therefore, when you hear Him say something lowly and imperfect about Himself, do not be troubled in any way. He says this for hearers who cannot understand anything higher and at once fall into rage.

What would not have happened to them, unable as they were to grasp the depth of the theological mystery, when the height of His glory remained incomprehensible even to Christians who knew His power and were saved by Him?

When you hear that many believed, understand it thus: they believed simply and as it happened, not as they ought. They believed because humility in His words pleased them. See further on Jn 8:31.

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

Here also the wise Evangelist expresses his wonder before Christ. Though He often uses lowly speech, He thereby attains a great purpose. Though He could speak all things as God, and possessed free and royal authority to speak about everything, He nevertheless adapted His word according to the divine economy to His hearers. By this He caught many into willing obedience to Himself and then made them follow Him with greater zeal.

Therefore the Savior's effort to speak to the people in a more human manner was not in vain. Some of the most ignorant, seeing Him as man and at the same time hearing words fitting to God, fell into no small insolence and quickly left Him; cf. Jn 6:66.

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Since He was at once and together God and man, He possessed the unquestionable authority both of God and of man. He could speak faultlessly in whichever manner He wished. With good purpose, then, He adapted Himself to the feebleness of His hearers. Often and in many ways He said of Himself what befitted man, such as: "I do nothing of Myself" (Jn 8:28), and the like.

Understanding absolutely nothing, and approaching His words without any inquiry, they inclined to this simple and common meaning. They therefore thought that He was saying, "Having received power from the Father, I work miracles," and, "He is with Me because I always do what is pleasing to Him."

Thus, in agreement with the impious Jews, the accursed enemies of the truth and opponents of the dogmas of piety strive to think low thoughts about the Lord. They seize what He said with perfect purpose and accommodation, in order to destroy the glory and authority proper to Him, and they rob the beauty of truth.

They seem to forget Paul's words, that one must cast down thoughts and every lofty thing that rises against the knowledge of God, and bring every thought captive to Christ and to obedience to Him (2 Cor 10:5). Nor do they know the words of God through one of the prophets: "Who is wise and will understand these things? Or who is prudent and will know them?" (Hos 14:10).

If some great darkening had not seized them, and if a dark veil had not lain upon them, what need would there be to seek a wise and prudent man who could find this knowledge? See 2 Cor 3:13 and following. But this is enough for the present. Let us rather say something useful concerning the saying set before us.

As the Evangelist notes, not all but "many" believed Christ when He said these things. Since He is true God, having nothing hidden from His eyes and possessing exact knowledge that He would not draw all into willing obedience, He still persistently used prolonged exhortations toward those who came to Him. By this He gives us a most excellent example, and presents Himself as a pattern for the teachers of the Church.

Even if not all, perhaps because of their incapacity, receive benefit, still, once there is likelihood that this effort will profit someone, one must not delay in explaining what is profitable. Otherwise, burying in barren silence the talent given us, that is, grace through the Spirit, we shall resemble that wicked servant. He shamelessly said to his lord, "I knew that you are a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you did not scatter. And being afraid, I hid your talent. Here, take what is yours" (Mt 25:24-25).

What happened to that wretched man, and what punishment he underwent, is certainly known to everyone acquainted with the Gospel writings. Therefore let us think and reason rightly about this matter. One called to the work of teaching must be freed from all sluggishness and must never give himself over to negligence. Even if not all are persuaded by his words, he should think with joy on the profit of his labors. He should heed prudently the words of our Savior: "A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. It is enough for the disciple to be as his teacher, and the servant as his master" (Mt 10:24-25).

If the Lord does not persuade everyone, because of the coarseness and hardness of heart of His hearers, who can accuse us for weakness in speech? Speech requires voluntary, not compelled, assent from its hearers.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

O that, after my words also, many who once understood otherwise might be instructed and believe in Him! It is quite possible that some Arians are present among this multitude.

I would not dare suppose that Sabellians are present, who affirm that the Father is the same Person as the Son. That heresy is certainly rather old and has been sufficiently emptied out.

But the Arian heresy still seems to undergo certain convulsions, like a dying body, or rather like a man at his last breath. The rest too must be delivered from it, as many have already been delivered from it.

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Although they were not in this city, still, after numerous settlers arrived here, they too appeared. And so, when the Lord spoke those words, many Jews believed in Him. Let us see whether, after my words, the Arians will believe. They will not believe in me, but together with me.

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryChurch Father

When Jesus Christ turned to humble words, then they believed. But they did not believe as they ought. They believed only His humble words and did not accept the exalted ones. Knowing this, Jesus Christ strove to correct them, doing everywhere what He ought to do, although they soon drew back from Him and began to insult Him.

Alexander Gorsky

19th centuryChurch Father

This conversation, apparently a farewell discourse, made a strong impression on many who until then had been undecided. Fearing that they might truly lose Him forever, they declared that they believed in Him.

Everything shows that they were drawn to Jesus not by faith in the true Deliverer of the human race from sins, but only by the hope of finding in Him a mighty earthly king. The extraordinary quality and fearlessness with which Jesus spoke and acted in the capital itself captivated them.

The Lord seemed ready to receive them among His followers. Yet He considered it necessary to give them a fitting instruction.

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If you wish, He told them, to be My true disciples, for He saw that there was no sincere desire here, then abide in My word. That is, obey Me. Do not go beyond the limits of My instruction. Be inwardly joined to My word in your soul.

Then you will know the truth, because My word is truth. The truth will set you free. That is, then your complete deliverance, or redemption, will come and be accomplished.

Bogolepow D.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

Many believed, drawn by the word of Jesus. But, as is seen from what follows, this was not firm faith, nor faith in the proper sense. It was the stirring of many toward faith in Jesus Christ through His powerful word.

Moreover, many of those who believed were not free from fleshly messianic expectations regarding Jesus. They hoped to see in Him a King and Liberator from a foreign yoke.

Therefore Jesus Christ, addressing such believers, says: "Only in that case will you be My true disciples, if you abide in My word. You must receive My word with your whole being and conform your life to it.

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"By such reception of My word, progress in the knowledge of the truth will become possible for you. This knowledge will grant you the true freedom which you hope to receive through Me," that is, freedom from bondage to sin.

Gladkow B.I.

19th centuryChurch Father

This discourse made a strong impression on the listeners, and many of them believed that Jesus was the true Messiah.

Michail (Lusin)

19th centuryChurch Father

“Many believed in Him”: they believed specifically in Him as the Messiah. The power and truth of the Lord’s words made such an impression on them that they believed His words about Himself as the Messiah, although the faith of some among the many soon proved more than weak.

Nikolaj Alexandrow

19th centuryChurch Father

The decisive and fearless testimony of Jesus Christ about Himself as the Messiah, before members of the Sanhedrin embittered against Him, called forth from many Jews an expression of faith in Him, v. 30.

Yet the faith of these Jews was plainly not free from Pharisaic notions of the Messiah as a mighty earthly king. They were struck in Jesus Christ by the persuasive power of His speech and by the unearthly majesty of the divine Teacher.

But they had not yet taken His teaching to heart or grasped it with the mind. They were still slaves of Pharisaic false views concerning the whole work of the Messiah's ministry.

Therefore Jesus Christ gives them instruction: "If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free," vv. 31-32.

Philaret (Gumilevski)

19th centuryChurch Father

"As He spoke these things, many believed in Him." How could they fail to come to themselves when the wondrous Teacher spoke of the future as though it were present? The power of Jesus' replies to the crafty scribes made them feel His superiority over earthly teachers.

"He said to the Jews who had believed Him, 'If you abide in My word, you are truly My disciples.'" The heavenly Teacher, whose gaze penetrated human hearts, saw that the faith of the new believers was not yet firm. It could easily be shaken when it met the sorrows of life.

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So He hastened to help the young children of faith. A worthy disciple, He says, remains faithful to his teacher's teaching in life's hardest moments. He abides in the word with thoughts, feelings, and desires. By deeds he proves that the word abides in his heart, Jn 2:27-28.

Otherwise his faith would be a shoot without a secure root, Mt 13:20. The apostle wrote: "Be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone hears the word and does not do it, he is like a man beholding his own face in a mirror. He looks at himself, goes away, and at once forgets what he was like. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and abides in it, being no forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, shall be blessed in his doing," Jas 1:22-25.

"And you shall know the truth," said the Lord. The truth is Christ's truth, the teaching of Christ, Gal 3:1; Col 1:6. The Lord makes knowledge of the truth depend on abiding in His word.

When Christ's teaching passes from word into life, then men learn the full dignity and meaning of Christ's truth.

"And the truth shall make you free." Freedom rooted in falsehood and error is false freedom, a wretched bondage. As Christ's truth grows in the soul, the soul's true freedom unfolds.

As abiding in the word precedes faithful knowledge of the truth, so knowledge of the truth precedes freedom of spirit. Such is the order indicated by the Lord.

At times people try to change this order. They first want to be free, so that they may freely investigate and discover the truth. But from this come only errors and crimes, to the misfortune of men.

It cannot be otherwise, because this inverted order of discovering truth is psychologically wrong.

"And the truth shall make you free." From what? First of all, from prejudices and errors of the mind, of which there are so many among men. Experience also confirms this.

From what dense darkness of pagan and Jewish life mankind was freed by the mercy of Christ's teaching!

From what else will it free? From sin, not only actual sin, but also delight in sin, which lies so close to the corrupted soul.

Whoever believes in the depth of his soul the divine truth that we, guilty and condemned for sins, have been reconciled with the righteousness of God by the death of the Son of God, receives grace. In him childlike love for God appears and grows.

This love gradually frees him from delight in sin, 1 Jn 3:1; 1 Jn 4:19; Rom 6:18; Rom 8:21; Jas 1:25. With this, he is also delivered from servile service to the law, Rom 7:6; Gal 5:1, 13; Gal 4:26, 31; 1 Tim 1:9.

Wlastow G.K.

19th centuryChurch Father

Among these many who believed, one should probably distinguish those who believed in the Lord with a simple and pure heart from the "Jews who believed" in the following verse. These immediately come forward with endless disputes and boasts about their descent.

They appear with that proud self-confidence which prevented them from believing and being saved. They could in no way understand what was said to all mankind: "You are earth, and to earth you shall go."

They attached such great importance to the earth and to earthly life, with its self-deception, that, though shaken to the depths of the soul by the Lord's words, in the next moment they began to boast and dispute. Finally, they took up stones, v. 59.

It is to these Jews that the Lord speaks.

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Passages read together with this verse.

The original text

Greek text, 7 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. Ταῦτα
    tauta
    this
    G3778 · οὗτος
  2. αὐτοῦ
    autou
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  3. λαλοῦντος
    lalountos
    I speak
    G2980 · λαλέω
  4. πολλοὶ
    polloi
    much
    G4183 · πολύς
  5. ἐπίστευσαν
    episteusan
    I believe
    G4100 · πιστεύω
  6. εἰς
    eis
    into
    G1519 · εἰς
  7. αὐτόν
    auton
    he
    G846 · αὐτός