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Luke 7:24Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

And when the messengers of John were departed, he began to speak to the multitudes concerning John. What went ye out into the desert to see? A reed shaken with the wind?

Douay-Rheims

απελθοντων δε των αγγελων ιωαννου ηρξατο λεγειν τοις οχλοις περι ιωαννου τι εξεληλυθατε εις την ερημον θεασασθαι καλαμον υπο ανεμου σαλευομενον

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

11 Church Fathers comment on this verse · 12 commentaries

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

Given that numerous individuals may have found themselves inclined to doubt John, especially since he had earlier proclaimed much about Christ and now posed the inquiry, ‘Are you the one who is to come?’ - Christ addresses the crowd, saying, ‘Do not entertain any such doubts about John. He is not a flimsy reed swaying in the wind, testifying one moment about Me and failing to recognize Me the next. If he were such, what would lead you to venture into the wilderness to see him?’

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

If you are eager to grasp the truths of divine teachings, awaken the depths of your intellect: be nourished by these sacred phrases, and rather than succumbing to a sense of fullness, embrace an appetite for that which builds up the soul—a trait worthy of pursuit. Let us therefore attentively approach the words of our Savior, not haphazardly or without preparation but with the diligence and mindfulness appropriate for those eager to learn. Only in this manner can we truly grasp the profound subjects that often perplex us. We must seek illumination from Christ, which He graciously bestows upon our minds and hearts, so that through a proper understanding of His wisdom, we may once again marvel at the exquisite administration of His teachings.

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John's disciples inquired, “Is it He who is to come?” He responded to their inquiry and instructed them to return to the one who had sent them. He then addressed the crowd, asking, “What did you go into the wilderness to see? A reed swayed by the wind?” Let us consider the lessons we can derive from this, or inquire further into the meaning behind our Savior's words. Let us delve into the significance of what has been articulated, seeking it like buried treasure, exploring its mysteries; and having set our minds to the profound depths, let us be discerning, testing everything, as the Scriptures advise.

In that era, some took pride in their adherence to the law: the scribes, the Pharisees, and others in their circle. They were seen as the meticulous keepers of the law, adorning themselves with accolades according to their religious status. This led them to reject faith in Christ and to deny due respect to a life governed by the true, praiseworthy principles outlined in the Gospel. Consequently, our Savior, Christ, aimed to reveal to them that the honors of religious and moral duties mandated by the law are not only of little worth but also rather insignificant for true edification; conversely, the grace found through faith in Him is a promise of blessings that inspire awe, capable of bestowing unmatched honor upon those who embrace it. Many, as I have mentioned, upheld the law and exalted themselves for it, claiming to have reached the pinnacle of virtue in their meticulous observance of righteousness, which was merely shadows and symbols.

To demonstrate, as I have stated, that those who believe in Him possess a greater and loftier status and that the glory of the law's adherents pales in comparison to that of the evangelical path, Jesus cites John the Baptist. He acknowledges him as a prophet—indeed, one held in esteem even above the prophets—asserting that among those born of women, no one surpassed him in righteousness according to the law. Yet, He declares that the one who is least, who falls short when measured by the law's standards, is greater than John in the kingdom of God, not in legal righteousness, but in faith and the virtues that stem from faith. For faith bestows upon its recipients a glory that far surpasses that of the law. You will recognize and affirm this when you reflect on the words of the blessed Paul: having declared his release from the constraints of legal righteousness, he immediately added, “But what I had gained, I have lost for Christ's sake; and I consider it dung that I may gain Christ: I do not have my own righteousness derived from the law, but that which is through faith in Jesus Christ.” He even criticized the Israelites, stating, “Because they, being unaware of the righteousness of God, which is through Christ, sought to establish their own, derived from the law; they did not submit to the righteousness of God.” For, as Paul emphasizes, “Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.” He continues by saying, “We, who are Jews by nature and not sinners among the Gentiles, know that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ; so we have believed in Christ Jesus that we might be justified by faith in Him.” Hence, justification through Christ, which is faith in Him, exceeds the glory of righteousness derived from the law. Therefore, the blessed John the Baptist is exemplified as someone who attained the height of legal righteousness and extraordinary acclaim. Yet, even he is counted among the least: “For the least,” He states, “is greater than he in the kingdom of God.” The kingdom of God represents grace through faith, enabling us to be deemed worthy of every blessing and to receive the rich gifts bestowed by God from above. This grace liberates us from all guilt, makes us children of God, partakers of the Holy Spirit, and heirs of the heavenly inheritance.

Having established this understanding, let us now contemplate the words themselves. As mentioned earlier, He elevates the Divine Baptist to a remarkable stature and adorns the Forerunner with unparalleled honor so that you may appreciate faith more profoundly as that which distinguishes believers, surpassing even such renowned figures. He queries the Jews, “What did you go into the wilderness to see? A reed swayed by the wind?” Here, He likens the reed—a thing tossed about and swayed by the wind—to a person who seeks worldly recognition and pleasures amid temporal authority. Those engaged in such pursuits possess nothing steadfast or unshakeable; their fortunes may shift unexpectedly, leading to outcomes they never anticipated, and their successes are fleeting. Indeed, it is true that “all flesh is grass, and all the glory of man is as the flower of grass: the grass withers, and the flower falls off.” So, He asks, did you go into the wilderness to see a man like a reed?

Jerome of Stridon

4th centuryChurch Father

To prevent the uninformed multitude from elevating John for raising this inquiry, He concludes His address by commending him. He poses questions to the surrounding crowd regarding John: ‘What did you seek in the wilderness? A reed shaken by the wind? What did you come to see? A man dressed in luxurious clothing (Matthew 11:7, 8), and so forth. The essence of these questions is this: Did you not venture into the wilderness to witness a man swayed back and forth like a reed in the breeze, who would now hesitate about the one he previously celebrated, questioning whether this is indeed the one or someone else, of whom he had earlier declared, ‘Behold the Lamb of God?’ (John 1:29)

Ambrose of Milan

4th centuryChurch Father

What did you seek in the wilderness? Was it merely a reed bending in the breeze? Christ cautioned the disciples of John to place their faith in the Lord’s cross, and after they had left, He spoke to the crowds, urging the impoverished to aspire to virtue. He warned them against those who, though lifted up in spirit, were unstable in mind and weak in will, choosing the appealing over the beneficial and the fleeting over the everlasting. He called upon them to embrace the cross with humility, shunning the superficial adornments of this world, encouraging them instead to willingly sacrifice their earthly lives for eternal splendor, akin to blessed beggars who possess nothing temporal to forfeit. It is fitting that St.

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John is commended here; he disregarded the allure of life and remained steadfast in his righteousness even in the face of death.

What did you venture to the desert to observe? This desert symbolizes a realm that is yet untamed, neither barren nor yielding a harvest—a place where the Lord does not beckon us to enter, lest we replicate and take inspiration from those proud of their earthly wisdom, yet lacking in genuine inner virtue. They boast of shallow accolades and worldly prestige while being tossed about by life's tempests, deserving of comparison to a fragile reed. Lacking the fruit of enduring righteousness, they chase after the empty allure that pleases the eye. We are like reeds without deep roots; when the wind of success blows, we may recklessly strike out at those around us, vulnerable and easily harmed. Reeds are drawn to streams, just as we delight in fleeting worldly pleasures.

Nevertheless, if someone uproots a reed and purges it of the unnecessary, cleansing it of the old self and its deeds, as indicated in Colossians 3:9, and fashions it with the careful hand of a skilled scribe, it transforms from a mere reed into a writing instrument, designed to inscribe the heavenly commandments upon the heart’s tables, as noted in 2 Corinthians 3:3. Regarding this reed, it is said, "My tongue is the pen of a ready writer" (Psalm 44:2). Some attribute these words to Christ, suggesting that He embodies both the Word, the reed, and the scribe: He is the Word because He originates from the hidden Source of the Father; the reed because the flesh of Christ has communicated the fullness of the Father's will and achieved the divine commandments through His sacred bloodshed; the scribe because He has unveiled for us the mysteries of the Father’s work in the seamless interplay of the Old and New Testaments, of divinity and humanity.

In mastering the flesh, be inspired by this reed! Do not fill this reed—your body—with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God, so that your writing may stand the test of eternity. This is the reed that Paul utilized to pen his letters, as he remarked, “You are our epistle, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God” (2 Corinthians 3:3). Nourish your flesh with the blood of Christ, as it is declared, "That your foot may be dipped in blood" (Psalm 67:24). Thus, you will adorn the journey of your soul and the path of your thoughts with the bold declaration of Christ's cross. You immerse your flesh in the blood of Christ by expunging your vices, purifying your sins, and bearing the death of Christ in your body, as the apostle instructed: "Always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus" (2 Corinthians 4:10). Do not yield to the ground, lest your reed shatter. Therefore, concerning Christ, who cannot be bent towards earthly matters, the prophet proclaimed, "He shall not break the bruised reed" (Isaiah 42:3), for the flesh weakened by sin He has revitalized through the power of resurrection. The flesh of Christ serves as the true reed that affixed the head of the serpent-devil and the temptations of earthly desires upon the cross.

Did you venture into the wilderness to observe? Did the wind sway the reed? (Lk 7:24). After Jesus asserted that John's followers would come to embrace the Lord's cross, He turned to the crowds, inviting the downtrodden to live virtuously. This was to ensure that those who were uplifted in spirit, those who wavered in their resolve, and those lacking guidance would not choose the appealing over the beneficial, the transient over the everlasting. Rather, with a spirit of humility, they were to take up the cross instead of seeking the transient rewards of this world. Like the blessed poor who possess nothing that worldly riches could take from them, they were encouraged to willingly trade earthly existence for eternal glory.

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryCommentator

After John's messengers had departed, he began to address the crowds about John. Messengers, those who convey tidings, deliver a significant message. What prompted you to venture into the wilderness? A reed swaying in the breeze? What were you hoping to find? A man clad in fine garments? Those who wear extravagant clothing and live in luxury are typically found in royal palaces. So what were you seeking? A prophet? Indeed, I affirm to you, and even more than just a prophet. He is the one of whom it is written, "Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you." Furthermore, in relation to all these matters, it is expressed plainly.

Philaret of Moscow (Drosdow)

19th centuryChurch Father

"Why have you ventured into the wilderness to witness?" (Matt. 11:7; Luke 7:24) inquired Christ the Redeemer, reflecting on John the Baptist. This illustrates that, contrary to the expectations of human reasoning, the righteousness and grace found in the solitary dweller of the desert serve as a beacon for the world.

Alexander Gorsky

19th centuryCommentator

The Lord did not hesitate to address their inquiry: His response was to highlight His deeds and miracles, both those accomplished in the past and those performed deliberately in their midst at that moment, along with the prophetic words that identified these acts with the arrival of the Messiah. This served as a true witness of prophecy and personal experience. After presenting this, the Lord only commented, "Blessed is he who is not offended because of Me." Once the disciples of John had left, the Lord turned to the crowd and issued a strong warning regarding the criticism aimed at John, particularly directed against the Pharisees, who had rejected both John and Jesus.

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He condemned their unfaithfulness in their judgment of both figures, thereby affirming the path of God’s Wisdom, which granted honor to the kingdom of the Messiah, not to the righteous, but to tax collectors and sinners. When you flocked from your towns and villages to hear the voice in the wilderness, whom did you go out to see? Was it a reed shaken by the wind? Was it a changeable, capricious man swayed by every wind of doctrine or impulse? Certainly not; you did not recognize John in that manner.

Bogolepow D.P.

19th centuryCommentator

When John's disciples raised their inquiries about Jesus, those in the company of Christ may have wondered if the herald of repentance and the coming of the Messianic age had altered his perception of the one he had so steadfastly declared as the Messiah. To dispel any uncertainty regarding John, Christ appeals to the inner convictions of His listeners, asking them, “What did you go out into the wilderness to witness? Was it a man subject to fluctuations like a reed swayed by the wind, or someone who is overly concerned with earthly matters and changes his statements to suit his interests? No, certainly not. You indeed recognized John as a prophet. He is truly more than a prophet; he is the precursor of the Messiah, as foretold by Malachi.

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Truly I say to you, among those born of women, no one greater than John the Baptist has risen. When referring to the least, He means Himself; in comparison, He regards John as the greatest. Christ’s intention in making this assertion was to ensure that the high regard for John would not lead His audience to elevate the Forerunner above the Messiah.

Gladkow B.I.

19th centuryCommentator

Jesus addressed the crowds gathered around Him, inquiring, “What drew you out to the wilderness?” His discourse about John raises a poignant question. “Was it,” as Chrysostom articulates, “to glimpse some wretched and unstable figure? Surely, such a vast assembly would not have hurried into the desert unless they anticipated encountering a steadfast and resolute man.” Those who lack conviction, whose words shift from one day to the next, resemble a reed swaying in the breeze, like those found by the banks of the Jordan. However, John was not that sort of person; you did not venture to see a mere reed tossed about by the winds. John boldly rebuked Herod for his unlawful relationship with his brother's wife, and despite this boldness, Herod held him in esteem and sought his counsel.

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Had John sought the pleasures and comforts of worldly life, he could have attained remarkable accolades within the royal court merely for his silence; instead, he chose imprisonment over a life of luxury and would not compromise by either failing to speak the truth or remaining silent.

Nekrasow A.A. Prof.

19th centuryCommentator

The Gospel of Matthew implies that the Savior appeared in those regions of the wilderness where John was preaching, addressing crowds who were unaware of John’s imprisonment and thus continued to gather around him. In contrast, the account in Luke clarifies the matter further. Luke consistently employs the past perfect tense to convey that the people went out, using the term ἐξεληλύθατε. This grammatical form indicates an action that has recently occurred or shows clear evidence of its completion. Once the crowds left the wilderness, no indication of their earlier presence would remain. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that following John's arrest, the Lord Himself made His presence known in the wilderness.

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While the aorist tense can sometimes replace the perfect tense, as in the example of a recently constructed house—῾ᾠκοδομήθη”—the perfect tense, which emphasizes completed action, cannot be substituted for the aorist in certain contexts. For instance, if a house has been replaced by a field or garden, one cannot say ᾠκοδόμηται, as this would imply the house still stands or that remnants of it remain, indicating certainty of its prior existence. Consequently, ἐξεληλύθατε can only be interpreted to mean 'have gone out and have not yet returned.'

Paul Matwejewski

19th centuryCommentator

The inquiries posed by John’s disciples to Jesus could easily have led to unwarranted skepticism among the listeners regarding John himself. They may have considered him to be inconsistent, suggesting he had changed his previous stance and might have even loosened his strict lifestyle while in confinement. Aware of "the hidden thoughts of all," the Lord chose to address John only after his disciples had departed, to prevent any misunderstanding of flattery (St. John Chrysostom). By appealing to the insights of those who sought the Forerunner in the wilderness, Jesus emphasized that John’s character remained unchanged: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind? But what did you go out to see? A man clothed in soft raiment?

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Behold, those who wear soft clothing are in king's houses.” John is not a reed that sways with the slightest breeze; you approached him as someone unwavering and resolute, his rough garments indicating his rejection of luxury (Bl. Theophylact). But what else were you seeking? A prophet? Truly, I tell you, and even more than a prophet. He surpasses the prophets of the Old Testament due to his proximity to the Coming One; while the other prophets foretold Christ, he was the herald and direct witness, directing others to the Messiah. He is the one referenced in scriptures: “Behold, I send my messenger before your face, and he shall prepare your way before you.” By applying these prophetic words from Malachi (3:1) to Himself, the Lord identified the Forerunner as an Angel, both for his life resembling that of an angel, almost incorporeal in nature, and for announcing Christ (Bl. Theophylact).

I say to you, among those born of women, there is none greater than John the Baptist; yet, the least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he. Many thought Him to be a glutton and a drunkard, casting judgment on Him and demeaning Him, saying, “Is not this the carpenter's son?” Hence, He rightly withdrew Himself, mindful of prevailing opinions, to avoid appearing overly self-promotional. John’s ministry kindled a widespread anticipation for the Savior, drawing large crowds eager to hear about the heavenly Kingdom and claim it with fervor; this enthusiasm has not waned, as throngs continue to come to Jesus, striving determinedly to “take the Kingdom of Heaven by force” (Bl. Theophylact). From the time of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of Heaven has been eagerly pursued, as women of faith have pressed into it. The Pentateuch and writings of the prophets prepared the people for the arrival of the Savior; John concluded the Old Testament era. Thus, as the Lord indicated, "Do not place your hopes afar off nor expect another; if all was fulfilled before John, it signifies I am the Coming One" (St. John Chrysostom). All the prophets and the law had spoken prior to John—he was not the conclusion of the law and the prophets but merely the forerunner of the Messiah, endowed with the spirit and power of Elijah, the great servant of God (Luke 1:17). The coming of Elijah before the great day of the Lord was foretold by Malachi (4:5-6), prompting the Jews to anticipate Elijah, Jeremiah, or another prophet before the Messiah's arrival (Matt. 16:14; 17:10; John 1:21). The Lord made it clear that this Elijah is John: “If you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come,” and He urged them to be especially attentive to His words about John, declaring, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

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Passages read together with this verse.

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Greek text, 22 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. Ἀπελθόντων
    apelthontōn
    I come or go away from
    G565 · ἀπέρχομαι
  2. δὲ
    de
    but
    G1161 · δέ
  3. τῶν
    tōn
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  4. ἀγγέλων
    angelōn
    an angel
    G32 · ἄγγελος
  5. Ἰωάννου
    iōannou
    John
    G2491 · Ἰωάννης
  6. ἤρξατο
    ērxato
    I reign
    G757 · ἄρχω
  7. λέγειν
    legein
    I say
    G3004 · λέγω
  8. πρὸς
    pros
    to
    G4314 · πρός
  9. τοὺς
    tous
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  10. ὄχλους
    ochlous
    a crowd
    G3793 · ὄχλος
  11. περὶ
    peri
    about
    G4012 · περί
  12. Ἰωάννου
    iōannou
    John
    G2491 · Ἰωάννης
  13. Τί
    ti
    who
    G5101 · τίς
  14. ἐξήλθατε
    exēlthate
    I go out
    G1831 · ἐξέρχομαι
  15. εἰς
    eis
    into
    G1519 · εἰς
  16. τὴν
    tēn
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  17. ἔρημον
    erēmon
    deserted
    G2048 · ἔρημος
  18. θεάσασθαι
    theasasthai
    I see
    G2300 · θεάομαι
  19. κάλαμον
    kalamon
    a reed
    G2563 · κάλαμος
  20. ὑπὸ
    hypo
    by
    G5259 · ὑπό
  21. ἀνέμου
    anemou
    the wind
    G417 · ἄνεμος
  22. σαλευόμενον
    saleuomenon
    I shake
    G4531 · σαλεύω