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Mark 10:38Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

And Jesus said to them: You know not what you ask. Can you drink of the chalice that I drink of or be baptized with the baptism wherewith I am baptized?

Douay-Rheims

ο δε ιησους ειπεν αυτοις ουκ οιδατε τι αιτεισθε δυνασθε πιειν το ποτηριον ο εγω πινω και το βαπτισμα ο εγω βαπτιζομαι βαπτισθηναι

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

10 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

Do you recognize that they are unaware of what they are truly requesting when they engage with Him about thrones and accolades, leadership and glory, while the period of trials has not yet commenced? Thus, when He remarked to them, "You know not what you ask" (Matthew 20:22), He was referencing two key points. First, they were discussing a kingdom that held no significance for Christ, as His promise was not related to this temporal and worldly realm. Second, in their desire at such a moment to seek authority and the highest accolades, aiming to shine more brilliantly than others, they were doing so at an inopportune moment. This was not a time for crowns and distinctions; it was a moment for trials and challenges, for labor and perspiration, for struggles and conflicts.

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He refers to suffering as a baptism, indicating that from this experience will arise a profound purification for all creation. They responded to Him, "We can." Out of enthusiasm, they readily pledged their willingness without fully understanding the implications of their words, believing their requests would be granted. He then foretold them significant blessings: "You will be honored with martyrdom and you will endure what I have endured; your lives will conclude with violent deaths, and through this you will be united with Me."

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As we plunge fully into the water, akin to entering a grave, our old self is buried, completely submerged. Subsequently, when we raise our heads from the water, a new individual emerges. Just as it is effortless for us to dive and surface, so it is for God to bury the old self and reveal the new (cf. Rom. 6:3-11). This act is performed three times so that it becomes clear that it is the power of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit that accomplishes all these transformations (cf. Matt. 28:19).

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He refers to His cross and His death as "the cup" and "baptism." He calls it a "cup" because He approached the cross with joy, and "baptism" because He redeemed the entirety of creation through it; not only that, but also due to the simplicity of the resurrection. Just as one who is baptized in water rises from it with ease, facing no hindrance from the nature of the water, so too did He, after descending into death, rise with even greater ease. This is why He designates it as baptism.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

Consequently, the Lord admonishes them for their lack of understanding regarding their request: ‘You do not know,’ He states, ‘what you are asking. You believe that My kingdom is rooted in earthly pleasures, prompting your desire for a worldly position; this is far from the truth. The reality of My kingdom transcends human comprehension, and being seated at My right hand is a profound honor, surpassing even the status of angels. You envision greatness, yet I am inviting you to face suffering.

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He refers to the Cross as the Cup and the Baptism - the Cup symbolizes how the Cross, akin to a vessel of wine, was soon to lead Him into the slumber of death, and He was prepared to embrace this cup of suffering as a cherished offering; Baptism signifies that through His sacrifice on the Cross, He achieved the purification of our transgressions.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

He was alluding to the chalice of humiliation and anguish.

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

The Lord presented all His forthcoming afflictions to His followers to reveal who would swiftly empathize with Him. He stated, “If we suffer with Him, we shall also be glorified with Him” (cf. Rom. 8:17). If He did not grant their requests due to a lack of authority, then why did He bestow it upon the twelve apostles? Did He truly give — or did He not? If He did not, then His promise would be false; however, if it is true, then He indeed bestowed it upon them once and for all. What would be the significance of what He declared: “All that my Father has is mine” (cf. Jn. 16:15), and “what I have, this is my Father's” (cf. Jn. 17:10)?

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However, since they sought to secure a position for themselves among their peers, the Lord asked them, “Can you drink the cup that I am about to drink?” to emphasize that this position comes at a cost, as it is stated, “Therefore God also hath highly exalted Him” (cf. Phil. 2:9).

Maximus the Confessor

7th centuryChurch Father

What is meant by the phrases: Are you able to partake of the cup that I partake of and to be immersed in the baptism in which I am immersed? How do the cup and baptism differ? The baptism of Christ symbolizes our willing effort of the inner disposition of the spirit toward the pursuit of righteousness; through this, we cleanse the impurities of our conscience and willingly embrace the death of our desires in relation to divine revelations. Conversely, the cup represents the voluntary trials that confront us for the sake of truth, arising from external circumstances beyond our control; through these challenges, along with the divine love woven into our essence, we willingly transcend the transient death inherent in our nature.

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This distinction highlights that baptism fosters a detachment from the desires of physical existence in pursuit of virtue, while the cup encourages the faithful to choose truth over nature itself. The Lord’s mention of the cup prior to baptism underscores that virtue exists for the sake of truth, not the other way around. Thus, those who strive for virtue in pursuit of truth remain unscathed by the allure of vanity, whereas those who seek truth merely for the sake of virtue are accompanied by vanity and pride.

Epistle of the Church of Smyrna

2nd centuryChurch Father

I thank You for gracing me with the privilege today to join the ranks of martyrs and to partake of the cup of Your Christ for the resurrection to eternal life of both soul and body in the incorruptibility of the Holy Spirit. Let me now be accepted in Your presence as a pleasing and honorable offering, as You, the unchangeable and true God, have prepared, proclaimed, and accomplished beforehand.

Cyrill of Jerusalem

4th centuryChurch Father

Those who do not undergo baptism cannot attain salvation, with the exception of martyrs, who, even without water, enter the kingdom of heaven. The Savior redeemed creation through the Cross and was pierced in His side, from which flowed blood and water. Thus, some were baptized with water during times of peace, while others were baptized with their own blood in periods of persecution. The Savior referred to martyrdom as a form of baptism, asking, ‘Can you drink the cup that I drink, or be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?’ (Mk. 10:38).

Nicephoros (Theotokis)

18th centuryCommentator

How astutely He addressed their misguided belief! You assume, I mentioned, that My reign is fleeting and earthly, and that the thrones I referenced are merely of this world. Hence, you request for one to be seated at My right hand and the other at My left; yet, you do not understand what you are seeking. There are no worldly thrones in that realm, nor any seats of tangible matter; instead, the throne represents the eternal and unchanging Divine glory, and the foremost seat embodies the excellence of that Divine honor. You remain unaware of what you are asking. After stating this, He inquired of them, even though He, being All-Knowing, had no need to do so; rather, He sought to reveal their desires and, through their response, illustrate who was truly deserving of such grace and glory.

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He told them, you seek the foremost place in My Kingdom; yet, can you partake of the cup I drink, meaning, are you prepared to face the death of the cross as I will? Can you undergo the same baptism that I will receive, which signifies your ability to endure suffering as I will endure? It is clear that He referred to His death as the cup and His suffering as the baptism, as evidenced when He prayed for the removal of His impending death, saying, ‘My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me’ (Mt 26:39). Furthermore, when He informed His disciples of the suffering He would endure for humanity’s salvation, He stated: ‘By baptism, we must be baptized,’ and He pondered how long He must endure until His death (Luke 12:50). The cup signifies death for us as well, for when we partake in the cup of Divine Communion, we proclaim the Lord's death; similarly, by baptism, He signifies suffering and burial, for if we are baptized into Christ, we are united with Him through baptism (1 Cor 11:26). How did these two Apostles respond to the Lord Jesus' inquiry?

Gladkow B.I.

19th centuryCommentator

"You are unaware of what you are requesting," Jesus replied to them. He understood that these very disciples, who were eager to occupy positions of honor beside Him in His kingdom of glory, would abandon Him and disperse as soon as His moment of anguish arrived. This is why He inquired of them, "Are you able to drink from the cup of suffering that I am about to drink? Are you able to endure the baptism of blood with which I must be baptized?" In ancient times, it was common to offer a cup of poison to those sentenced to death, so the phrase "to drink the cup" signified experiencing a fate that resulted in death.

Lopuchin A.P.

19th centuryCommentator

Christ approached their self-centeredness and misconceptions with gentleness. In their ignorance, they sought positions of honor, not realizing that mere days later, those places would be filled in humiliation and suffering by two condemned thieves. Their minds envisioned twelve thrones, while He forewarned them of three crosses. They fantasized about worldly crowns, yet He revealed to them the cup of sorrow and the baptism of suffering. Could they partake of this cup alongside Him or undergo this baptism? Perhaps now with a clearer understanding of His message, they boldly replied, “We can.” He then affirmed that they would indeed need to prove their commitment, but only those chosen by the Father in heaven would occupy the positions at His right and left sides.

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Passages read together with this verse.

The original text

Greek text, 23 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. Ὁ
    ho
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  2. δὲ
    de
    but
    G1161 · δέ
  3. Ἰησοῦς
    iēsous
    Jesus
    G2424 · Ἰησοῦς
  4. εἶπεν
    eipen
    to say
    G2036 · ἔπω, ἐρῶ, εἶπον
  5. αὐτοῖς
    autois
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  6. Οὐκ
    ouk
    no
    G3756 · οὐ
  7. οἴδατε
    oidate
    I know
    G1492 · εἴδω
  8. τί
    ti
    who
    G5101 · τίς
  9. αἰτεῖσθε
    aiteisthe
    I ask
    G154 · αἰτέω
  10. δύνασθε
    dynasthe
    I am powerful
    G1410 · δύναμαι
  11. πιεῖν
    piein
    I drink
    G4095 · πίνω
  12. τὸ
    to
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  13. ποτήριον
    potērion
    a drinking cup
    G4221 · ποτήριον
  14. ὃ
    ho
    who
    G3739 · ὅς, ἥ
  15. ἐγὼ
    egō
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  16. πίνω
    pinō
    I drink
    G4095 · πίνω
  17. ἢ
    ē
    or
    G2228 · ἤ
  18. τὸ
    to
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  19. βάπτισμα
    baptisma
    the rite or ceremony of baptism
    G908 · βάπτισμα
  20. ὃ
    ho
    who
    G3739 · ὅς, ἥ
  21. ἐγὼ
    egō
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  22. βαπτίζομαι
    baptizomai
    I dip
    G907 · βαπτίζω
  23. βαπτισθῆναι
    baptisthēnai
    I dip
    G907 · βαπτίζω