The Church Fathers on this verse

Proverbs 8:25Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

The mountains, with their huge bulk, had not as yet been established: before the hills, I was brought forth:

Douay-Rheims

בְּטֶ֣רֶם הָרִ֣ים הָטְבָּ֑עוּ לִפְנֵ֖י גְבָע֣וֹת חוֹלָֽלְתִּי׃

Hebrew (Masoretic text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

6 Church Fathers comment on this verse

Gregory the Theologian

4th centuryChurch Father

The question of whether the Son is eternally begotten or not warrants deeper examination of the statements made. As it is written, "Before all hills He begat me" (LXX). If one accepts the heretical view that something which has ended must have had a beginning, then it logically follows that that which is eternal has never begun. This raises significant questions regarding the nature of the soul and the angels. If they were initiated into existence, they too would be subject to cessation. However, if they endure forever, it is clear from their nature that they have not been created. Thus, they are indeed both created and eternal. It is, therefore, unjust for anyone to claim that what has come to an end must also have had a beginning.

Athanasius the Great

4th centuryChurch Father

The distinction between the creature and the birth is essential, as the Lord Himself illustrates in Proverbs. He declares, “The Lord hath made Me the beginning of His ways” (Proverbs 8:22) and further states, “But before all hills He maketh Me.” If the Word were a creature in its essence, and there was no disparity between birth and creation, He would have simply stated “created Me” without the addition of “begets Me.” Instead, He connects “created Me the beginning of His ways in His works” with “begets Me,” emphasizing that “begets Me” precedes creation. This indicates that the phrase “begets Me,” associated with “created,” reveals that birth occurs prior to creation.

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If it had been stated, “The Lord begets Me,” followed by “But before all hills He created Me,” it would imply that creation takes precedence over birth. However, by asserting “Before all He begets Me,” He affirms His distinction from all, since it has previously been established that none of the creatures precedes one another; they are all instantiated simultaneously by Divine command. Thus, being included in “created” is not equivalent to being included in “begets Me.” The term “created” refers to “the beginning of ways,” whereas “begets Me” does not say “in the beginning begets Me,” but rather “before all He begets Me.” He who exists before all is not merely the beginning of all; He is fundamentally different. If He is distinct from all, and yet is the beginning of all, then it is clear that He stands apart from the rest of creation. This demonstrates that the Word, being different and preeminent, is later brought into creation through the beginning of ways via His incarnation, as the Apostle states, “He who is the beginning, begotten from the dead... Let Him who is the firstborn be first in all” (Colossians 1:18).

This distinction between “created” and “begotten of Me,” as well as between “the beginning of ways” and “before all,” mirrors the process in which God, the Creator, becomes the Father of men through the indwelling of His Word. Conversely, in the case of the Word, God is recognized as His Father by nature, later becoming His Creator and Maker when the Word assumes human nature and becomes man. Just as humans are made children through the Spirit of the Son, so too is the Word of God acknowledged as created and made upon taking on human form. Therefore, if we are sons by nature, it follows that He too is a creature and a work by nature. If we are made sons by adoption and grace, it is evident that the Word, who became man to grant us grace, referred to Himself, saying, “The Lord created Me.”

Hilarius of Poitiers

4th centuryChurch Father

The One who existed before time began was brought forth, not solely for the earth but also for the mountains and hills. Thus, in this context, Wisdom speaks of Himself, conveying a depth beyond mere words.

Symeon of Thessalonica

15th centuryChurch Father

An explanation of the essential aspects of the divine Creed, highlighting their origins and the opposition they face. The term "born" is reflected in Proverbs: "before all hills begat Me" (Proverbs 8:25). The Gospel states: "I was born on this, and on this I came" (John 18:37). The term "beloved" is captured in the scripture: "He that loveth Him that begat loveth also Him that begat of Him" (1 Jn. 5:1).

Ireneus (Orda)

19th centuryCommentator

The wise individual listens to the call of wisdom itself. She proclaims her message to everyone from elevated and bustling places and, aware that her hands are filled with truth and significance, illustrates her divine nature and actions as the incarnate Wisdom. She bestows strength, wealth, and prosperity upon her followers. She is a co-creator alongside God the Creator and a participant in the formation of the world. Now, she encourages all to heed her teachings, promising to bestow wisdom and happiness upon them. The Lord appointed me as the beginning of His ways, in His works (Prov. 8:22). The Hebrew text uses the term ‘kanani,’ which translates to ‘acquired,’ making a more accurate interpretation, as recognized by the early church fathers during their discussions with the Arians, who rendered it as ‘possessed.’

Vissarion (Nechaev)

19th centuryCommentator

The landmasses, complete with their peaks and valleys, emerged on the planet. Though the earth has endured in this state for countless millennia, its age pales in comparison to the eternal existence of the hypostatic Wisdom that is begotten of the Father. This Wisdom was present not only before any living beings roamed the earth but also at a time when the earth itself had yet to come into being.

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