The Church Fathers on this verse

Revelation 17:8Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

The beast which thou sawest, was, and is not, and shall come up out of the bottomless pit and go into destruction. And the inhabitants on the earth (whose names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world) shall wonder, seeing the beast that was and is not.

Douay-Rheims

και θαυμασονται οι κατοικουντες επι της γης την γην ων ου γεγραπται τα ονοματα το ονομα επι το βιβλιον του βιβλιου της ζωης απο καταβολης κοσμου βλεποντων οτι ην το θηριον το θηριον οτι ην και ουκ εστιν και παρεσται

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

7 Church Fathers comment on this verse

Andrew of Caesarea

6th centuryChurch Father

This beast is Satan, slain by the Cross of Christ. He will come to life again at the end of the world and, through the false signs and wonders of the Antichrist, will try to cast down the Cross.

He acted before the Cross, but now he is not, for he has been weakened by the sufferings of the Savior. He has been deprived of the dominion he had over the nations through their idol worship.

At the end of the world he will come up from the abyss, or from that place where he was shut up after his condemnation. The demons begged Christ not to send them there, but rather to cast them into the herd of swine (cf. Lk 8:30-33).

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Thus he will appear in the world. Or he will appear from the present life, which is also called an abyss figuratively because of the depth of sins and the turbulence of passions on the sea of life.

From there also the Antichrist will come, the instrument of Satan for ensnaring men. For this he will be condemned to destruction in the age to come.

Those whose names are not written in the book of the eternally living, and who did not recognize the Antichrist from Christ’s predictions, will marvel at the coming of the beast and at his false wonders.

They will marvel, not understanding why he has again received his former authority.

Because of the false wonders, he says, those who are not written in the book of the eternally living will marvel at the coming of the beast. These are those who have not studied him from Christ’s predictions.

They will marvel, considering also how he has again received his former authority.

Caesarius of Arles

6th centuryChurch Father

By this is meant that from an evil people an evil people is born, so that one may say: beast from beast, abyss from abyss. What does beast from beast mean, if not an evil people born from an evil people?

This happens while bad sons become like the worst parents. Likewise, while some die and others follow after them, those who have always plotted against the Church from the beginning are never lacking. They may be many or few, hidden or manifest.

Concerning communion with them, which we cannot avoid in this world, let us cry out to God's mercy. May we be so distinguished in our conduct that we do not perish with them by eternal punishment.

Rather, when they hear, "Depart from Me, you cursed, into everlasting fire," may we be found worthy to hear, "Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the Kingdom" (Mt 25:41, 34).

Oecumenius

6th centuryChurch Father

"The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the abyss." The devil existed before the sensible world came into being. He was made by God for good works, like the other divine angels.

"And is not," because what will happen at the end of the age was also revealed to the Evangelist. Then he will depart into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels (Mt 25:41). To be among them is not truly to be.

Accordingly, since Antichrist will manifest himself in the last days through the devil's activity, it is said, "and will ascend out of the abyss, and go to destruction." Clearly, through Antichrist the devil will gain an ascent and a kind of increase. Antichrist will lead men astray and urge them to worship him, as many have said before.

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Or one may try to understand the words "was and is not" in this way. In the Epistle to the Philippians the Apostle addresses all the saints in Christ Jesus who abide in Philippi (Phil 1:1). He calls the saints those who abide, because they abide in Christ, in nearness to God and remembrance of Him.

Therefore, if the saints already are, then the lawless devil now is not, even if he once existed before he became proud before God Almighty and fell from his rank. So also with the impious. Although they seem to exist, since they have hypostasis and essence, they nevertheless do not have being according to God's judgment and remembrance.

Because this is so, the book of Genesis contains no genealogy of Cain's descendants (cf. Gen 5:1-6:1), for they were not, because of their dishonor. And it is said that he will go to destruction, that is, he will undergo the just punishment of Gehenna.

For according to Matthew, the Lord spoke of the destruction of those condemned to it in this way: "Rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna" (Mt 10:28).

It is said: "And those who dwell on the earth will marvel," not all, but those whose names are not written in the book of life. At what will they marvel? That the beast was, and is not, and will appear and perish. Those who believed in him will be stunned by the great change that overtakes him.

For wishing to become ruler of the world, and presenting himself as such, he will not only be deprived of power. He will also receive the end worthy of his abomination.

Primasius of Hadrumetum

6th centuryChurch Father

Holy Scripture teaches that the origin of two cities belongs to the beginning of the world, and that their race extends until this time. One of them is the city of God, and the other is the city of the devil.

The latter is here signified by the beast, as though it were the whole body of sinners taken together. Therefore John says, "he was, and is not," because in the order of generations coming and going one after another, what must be fulfilled takes place.

Therefore it is then said that the beast will ascend out of the abyss and go to destruction. This happens by divine justice, hidden yet righteous, as the psalm says: "Thy judgments are a great abyss" (Ps 35:7). Or the beast will come forth from the hearts of the impious, of whom the psalm says: "Deep calls unto deep" (Ps 41:8).

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John means those very men from whose members the body predestined for condemnation is composed. If the names here create some ambiguity, the same John says in his epistle in the singular: "As you have heard that Antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared" (1 Jn 2:18).

And a little later he says: "They went out from us, but they were not of us. For if they had been of us, they would have remained with us" (1 Jn 2:19).

Since their names are not written in the book of life, those still alive at the end of the world will suffer the destruction of their curse. Too late they will be troubled by the knowledge that the one they accepted is not Christ.

They were deceived by the intoxicating seduction of the beast. Our Christ, whom they will certainly recognize as Judge, is the One by whom they are most justly condemned.

Therefore, from the foundation of the world, as "the Lord knows those who are His" (2 Tim 2:19), so He also promised what He said to them: "Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world" (Mt 25:34).

Likewise, those who are not His He did not write in the book of life from the foundation of the world. As strangers to Him, and as foreknown from long ago, He will condemn them to the punishment of the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels (Mt 25:41).

For "the Lord is high, and regards the lowly, but the proud He knows from afar" (Ps 137:6). Therefore He says: "I never knew you. Depart from Me, you who work iniquity" (Mt 7:23).

Beda Venerabilis

7th centuryChurch Father

The devil once ruled the world and, with the crucifixion of the Lord, was cast out. Yet at the end of the world, released from the prison that restrains him, he will perish forever by the breath from the Lord's mouth. Tyconius holds that the beast is the whole body of the devil, filling itself out through the succession of generations, as those who depart are replaced by those who come.

Borodin P.M.

19th centuryChurch Father

This beast is Satan, the ruler of this world. In former times he ruled over all beneath heaven, being worshiped in various delusions and embodied in idols. With the Savior's coming to earth, a decisive blow was dealt to the authority of this beast. The Cross of Christ bound his power. Idolatry everywhere fell, yielding place to the grace-filled faith in Christ, but it did not vanish completely. By God's allowance, at the end of the world a time will come when this power will again manifest itself. Whether in idolatry, heresy, or something else is unknown.

Ivanov A.V.

19th centuryChurch Father

Verses 8-11. “The beast was, and is not, and will cease,” more correctly: “and will cease.” Of this beast it is said in verse 11 that “he is the eighth, and is of the seven.”

As is clear from verse 10, these are kings who must reign in Babylon. Five of them, John observes, have already fallen, and one now is. The seventh has not yet come.

There is no difficulty in seeing this sixth emperor as Galba. But it is extremely difficult to understand what the words mean: he was and is not, and will appear.

Or again: the beast that was and is not is the eighth from the number of the seven.

Some think this was Maximinus, one of the seven persecutors. At first he ruled the Roman Empire together with Diocletian, then after him he had to abdicate the throne.

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But when his son Maxentius only increased disorders and discontent against himself, Maximinus again assumed the title of emperor and began to be called bis Augustus.

Thus, they say, he was both one of the seven and the eighth. But with this explanation the expression remains incomprehensible: five have already been, one is, and another has not yet come.

Therefore others refer this expression to those emperors who came after Nero, the fifth emperor in sequence.

It is known that after Nero’s murder great disorders arose. Galba, proclaimed emperor, was soon killed, and Otho was set in his place.

At the same time Vitellius, who had declared himself emperor, moved from the Rhine into Italy. After defeating Otho, he took possession of Rome and could be counted both as one of the seven and as the eighth.

He himself was overthrown by Vespasian. In other words, he went to destruction.

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Passages read together with this verse.

The original text

Greek text, 48 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. Τὸ
    to
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  2. θηρίον
    thērion
    a wild beast
    G2342 · θηρίον
  3. ὃ
    ho
    who
    G3739 · ὅς, ἥ
  4. εἶδες
    eides
    I know
    G1492 · εἴδω
  5. ἦν
    ēn
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  6. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  7. οὐκ
    ouk
    no
    G3756 · οὐ
  8. ἔστιν
    estin
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  9. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  10. μέλλει
    mellei
    I am about to
    G3195 · μέλλω
  11. ἀναβαίνειν
    anabainein
    I go up
    G305 · ἀναβαίνω
  12. ἐκ
    ek
    from out
    G1537 · ἐκ
  13. τῆς
    tēs
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  14. ἀβύσσου
    abyssou
    the abyss
    G12 · ἄβυσσος
  15. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  16. εἰς
    eis
    into
    G1519 · εἰς
  17. ἀπώλειαν
    apōleian
    destruction
    G684 · ἀπώλεια
  18. ὑπάγει
    hypagei
    I go away
    G5217 · ὑπάγω
  19. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  20. θαυμασθήσονται
    thaumasthēsontai
    I wonder
    G2296 · θαυμάζω
  21. οἱ
    hoi
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  22. κατοικοῦντες
    katoikountes
    I dwell in
    G2730 · κατοικέω
  23. ἐπὶ
    epi
    on
    G1909 · ἐπί
  24. τῆς
    tēs
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  25. γῆς
    gēs
    the earth
    G1093 · γῆ
  26. ὧν
    hōn
    who
    G3739 · ὅς, ἥ
  27. οὐ
    ou
    no
    G3756 · οὐ
  28. γέγραπται
    gegraptai
    I write
    G1125 · γράφω
  29. τὸ
    to
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  30. ὄνομα
    onoma
    name
    G3686 · ὄνομα
  31. ἐπὶ
    epi
    on
    G1909 · ἐπί
  32. τὸ
    to
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  33. βιβλίον
    biblion
    a papyrus roll
    G975 · βιβλίον
  34. τῆς
    tēs
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  35. ζωῆς
    zōēs
    life
    G2222 · ζωή
  36. ἀπὸ
    apo
    from
    G575 · ἀπό
  37. καταβολῆς
    katabolēs
    a foundation
    G2602 · καταβολή
  38. κόσμου
    kosmou
    the world
    G2889 · κόσμος
  39. βλεπόντων
    blepontōn
    I look
    G991 · βλέπω
  40. τὸ
    to
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  41. θηρίον
    thērion
    a wild beast
    G2342 · θηρίον
  42. ὅτι
    hoti
    that
    G3754 · ὅτι
  43. ἦν
    ēn
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  44. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  45. οὐκ
    ouk
    no
    G3756 · οὐ
  46. ἔστιν
    estin
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  47. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  48. παρέσται
    parestai
    I am present
    G3918 · πάρειμι