The Church Fathers on this verse

Romans 14:8Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

For whether we live, we live unto the Lord: or whether we die, we die unto the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's.

Douay-Rheims

εαν τε γαρ ζωμεν τω κυριω ζωμεν εαν τε αποθνησκωμεν τω κυριω αποθνησκομεν εαν τε ουν ζωμεν εαν τε αποθνησκωμεν του κυριου εσμεν

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

7 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

Indeed, can one who lives for the law live for Christ? Yet in these words the Apostle considers not this alone. He also restrains those firm in faith from haste in correcting the weak, and persuades them to be patient. He proves that God cannot despise the weak, but will correct them at the proper time. What then does this mean: "None of us lives to himself"? We are not free. We have over us a Master, Who wills that we live and does not desire our death. For Him our life or death matters more than it does for us ourselves. By this the Apostle shows that God cares for us more than we do. He counts our life as gain for Himself, and our death as loss. If we die, we die not only for ourselves, but also for the Lord.

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By death here the Apostle means spiritual death, consisting in falling away from faith. That God cares for us is sufficiently shown by the fact that we live for Him and die for Him. Yet the Apostle is not content with this. He adds another confirmation, saying: "Whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's." Here he passes from spiritual death to natural death, lest his speech seem harsh. He presents a new and most important sign of God's providence over us. What is it?

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

Therefore, whether we live or die, we are always the Lord's. From death in relation to faith he passes to natural death, for he is now speaking about this. Whether we live by natural life, he says, we are the Lord's. Whether we die a natural death, we likewise belong to the Lord.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

We are not masters over ourselves. We were bought with a price. While we live, we are the Lord's, and after death we are likewise the Lord's. In other words, neither are you master over him, nor is he master over you, because we all have one Lord.

Ivanov A.V.

19th centuryChurch Father

"If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord." To live and die for the Lord means to glorify Him by life and by death. In other words, we must order our life so that others, seeing our good works, may glorify the heavenly Father (Mt 5:16). We must prepare for death so that both we and others may see in it only a passage to blessed life and to rest from our labors (Rev 14:13). Christians must glorify the Lord by their life and death because He redeemed them by His blood. He died for them and rose again, that He might become their Master in life and in death.

Michail Cheraskov

19th centuryChurch Father

Second, both groups, that is, both the weak in faith and the perfect, are guided by one and the same thought of pleasing God (Rom 14:5-12). "He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God" (Rom 14:6). Therefore it is best to leave the actions of our brethren to the judgment of the Lord, our common Master and Judge, to Whom "each of us shall give account of himself" (Rom 14:12).

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

If someone eats and drinks according to the demand of reason, to the glory of God, he not only does not sin. On the contrary, he fulfills the purpose of his being. For we were created by the Lord, and must live for the Lord, and likewise die for Him. This is all the more so because not only God the Father, but also His Only-begotten Son, our Savior, now has dominion over the living and the dead. He also will judge all the tribes of the earth. Therefore we have no right to judge others, but must prepare ourselves for judgment. For this reason, the Apostle counsels us to take care that, while not being scandalized by the eating of others, we do not give any scandal by our own not eating.

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Proud and self-invented abstinence does not constitute true fasting, and can very easily become an occasion for the involuntary judgment of others. Explaining the words of verse 11, Saint John Chrysostom says: "Saint Paul cited the words of the prophet, who bears witness that both those who lived in the old covenant and all without exception are subject to God, and subject to Him in everything. For it is not simply said, 'Every one shall bow,' but, 'shall confess,' that is, shall give an account of what he has done. Therefore, imagining the common Master seated upon the throne, attend to yourself." Developing this last thought, another holy father says: "The best place where you ought to stand is the judgment seat of Christ. Stand there and do not move, and everything will go well with you: the cry of prayer, the struggle with the passions, and the practice of every virtue. The fear of God will always overshadow and guide you." Blessed Theodoret adds to this: "Since the Apostle has pointed to the Master's judgment seat, he necessarily counsels us not to judge one another, but to await that sentence." According to John Chrysostom, it is not so ruinous to sin oneself as to lead others into sin besides oneself. Therefore he says: "Consider what punishment we shall undergo if we scandalize our neighbors without any good purpose." The Apostle sets forth all these thoughts about the general laws governing our life, and all the particular laws of moral Christian life, in order to teach Christians to subject every detail of life to these laws. This includes eating and not eating. Therefore, after unfolding them, he again returns to the same subject.

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

In accordance with what was said above, the meaning will be this: if we live, or while we live, we must live for the Lord. If we die, or when the end comes in whatever manner, we must so die or depart from life that this too is for the Lord, to His glory. Or again: if we live, or while we live, we live by the Lord. His right hand sustains us, and His power gives us life. When we die, we die according to His decree. In dying, we are not torn from His all-sustaining hands. The Lord is Master of life and death. The whole fullness of our being must be dedicated to Him. Saint Paul himself showed this example, with all boldness expecting and hoping that Christ would be magnified in his body, whether by life or by death (cf. Phil 1:20).

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He expected this because he dedicated everything to the Lord, Who does not put His servants to shame. "Whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's." "We are not masters over ourselves. While we live, we are the Lord's, and after death we are likewise the Lord's" (blessed Theodoret). "Do you see how strong His dominion is? Do you see how irresistible His might is? Do you see how all-embracing His providence is?" (Saint Chrysostom). We are the Lord's. The power of God embraces our being. There is nowhere to flee. This is the most compelling reason to dedicate everything to the Lord and, with zeal, to be pleasing to Him. If you please Him by dedicating everything to Him, you will be in His right hand for all blessedness. If you do not please Him, pleasing only yourself, you will be in His right hand for endless torments. Such is the law. Cast aside self-pleasing, then, and do everything for the Lord. The Apostle does not draw this conclusion, but wishes each person to draw it for himself. For this is the aim toward which his exhortations in verses 7-9 tend. From this he will then again begin to draw exhortations not to judge the brethren.

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Passages read together with this verse.

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Greek text, 23 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. ἐάν
    ean
    if
    G1437 · ἐάν
  2. τε
    te
    and
    G5037 · τε
  3. γὰρ
    gar
    for
    G1063 · γάρ
  4. ζῶμεν
    zōmen
    I live
    G2198 · ζάω
  5. τῷ
    tō
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  6. Κυρίῳ
    kyriō
    lord
    G2962 · κύριος
  7. ζῶμεν
    zōmen
    I live
    G2198 · ζάω
  8. ἐάν
    ean
    if
    G1437 · ἐάν
  9. τε
    te
    and
    G5037 · τε
  10. ἀποθνήσκωμεν
    apothnēskōmen
    I am dying
    G599 · ἀποθνήσκω
  11. τῷ
    tō
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  12. Κυρίῳ
    kyriō
    lord
    G2962 · κύριος
  13. ἀποθνήσκομεν
    apothnēskomen
    I am dying
    G599 · ἀποθνήσκω
  14. ἐάν
    ean
    if
    G1437 · ἐάν
  15. τε
    te
    and
    G5037 · τε
  16. οὖν
    oun
    therefore
    G3767 · οὖν
  17. ζῶμεν
    zōmen
    I live
    G2198 · ζάω
  18. ἐάν
    ean
    if
    G1437 · ἐάν
  19. τε
    te
    and
    G5037 · τε
  20. ἀποθνήσκωμεν
    apothnēskōmen
    I am dying
    G599 · ἀποθνήσκω
  21. τοῦ
    tou
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  22. Κυρίου
    kyriou
    lord
    G2962 · κύριος
  23. ἐσμέν
    esmen
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί