The Church Fathers on this verse

Romans 9:20Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it: Why hast thou made me thus?

Douay-Rheims

μενουνγε ω ανθρωπε συ τις ει ο ανταποκρινομενος τω θεω μη ερει το πλασμα τω πλασαντι τι με εποιησας ουτως

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

10 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

He does not immediately give the solution, and this too he does profitably. First he stops the mouth of the objector, saying: “Who are you, O man, to answer back to God?”

The Apostle does this to remove idle curiosity and excessive agitation. He places a bridle on him and teaches him to understand the difference between God and man.

He also teaches how incomprehensible divine Providence is, how it surpasses our understanding, and how everything must submit to God.

He does this so that, after persuading the hearer, taming and humbling his thought, he may more easily give his solution.

Then he can make his words entirely understandable to the hearer.

He does not say that this cannot be resolved. What, then? He considers it sinful even to ask about it.

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For what God has said must be obeyed and not investigated, even if we do not know the reason.

Therefore the Apostle says: “Who are you, O man, to answer back to God?”

Do you notice how he humbled and cast down arrogance? “Who are you, O man?” Are you a participant in authority? Have you been appointed judge over God?

In comparison with God, you cannot even be called something. It cannot even be said that you are this or that, but nothing.

To ask, “Who are you, O man?” is far more humbling than to say, “You are nothing.”

In general, by his question the Apostle expresses great indignation. He did not say, “Who are you, speaking to God?” but “answering back to God,” that is, you who dispute and resist.

To say “it should have been so” or “it should not have been so” means to quarrel.

Do you see how the Apostle frightened, struck, and made him tremble rather than ask questions and pry?

This belongs to a most experienced teacher: not to follow the wishes of his pupils in everything, but to lead them according to his own will.

First he uproots the thorns, and then casts the seeds. He does not immediately give an answer to every question.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

“But who are you, O man, to answer back to God?”

Do you see how he halts untimely curiosity, places a bridle on it, and teaches one to know the difference between God and man?

“But who are you?” Do you share with God in rule? Are you the judge of what He ought or ought not to do?

To say that this should be done in this way, and that in another, means to quarrel with God and act against Him.

This must by no means be done. Rather, one must accept with submission what has been done by God, however it has been done.

“Will the thing formed say to Him who formed it, ‘Why have You made me thus?’”

Paul used this example not to abolish our free choice and present us as inactive and motionless.

He used it to teach us how we must submit to God and show Him deep and silent obedience.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

Paul says that while you are still a thing made, like a lump of clay, and have not yet been brought to what is spiritual, it is right for you to refrain from such inquiry and not answer back to God. Only as a spiritual man can one judge all things and be judged by no one. Whoever wishes to know His thought must first be received among His friends. This is possible only for spiritual people, who already bear the image of the heavenly Man.

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

He answers their question with the words of Scripture: "Who will be able to resist Him? O man, who are you that you answer back to God concerning this?" (Is 45:9; Is 29:16).

Ambrosiaster

4th centuryChurch Father

It is great dishonor and presumption for a man to answer God with the opposite: unrighteousness against righteousness, evil against good, imperfection against perfection, weakness against strength, corruption against incorruption, mortality against immortality, a servant against the Master, a creature against the Creator.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

Since you have said, says the Apostle, “Who can resist His will?” tell me, who are you? Are you not a man?

How, then, do you answer back and enter into an investigation of the divine economies?

If you were not free, and did not choose by your own will what to do, but slavishly followed God’s will by necessity, you would be silent like inanimate creatures.

You would love what takes place according to God’s economy. But since you have been honored with reason, you both speak and do what you wish.

You do not love what takes place, but search out the causes of the divine economies.

Some say that this, “Therefore, O man, who are you to answer back to God?” was spoken as a rebuke.

They say that the Apostle rebuked those who inquisitively investigate God’s works, and showed their nothingness, since human nature does not differ from clay. Then he added the solution.

Constantius

5th centuryChurch Father

Now the Apostle enters into contradiction with himself, speaking against what he said above: “God has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.”

And again: “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?”

The Apostle shows that decision and will belong to God when, as though contradicting himself, he says: “He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.”

It is not given to the clay, molded in the hands of the potter, to reason. Whatever he fashions from it, the vessel cannot object and demand to become what it would wish.

Yet here, speaking of the one who contradicts God’s will and disputes it, the Apostle shows that the one who dares to depart from God’s judgment possesses freedom of will.

Michail Cheraskov

19th centuryChurch Father

In the third point the Apostle introduces a new objection in the following form: “You will say to me, ‘Why does He still find fault?’”

That is, why does God accuse and appoint to punishment those whom He rejects, such as Esau, Pharaoh, and the mass of the Hebrews, if everything in the world is ordered according to His will?

“Who has resisted His will?”; Rom 9:19-29.

First the Apostle suggests that, strictly speaking, man has no right to raise such questions because of his insignificance before God.

“But who are you, O man, that you dare to dispute with God? Will the thing formed say to Him who formed it, ‘Why have You made me thus?’

Does not the potter have authority over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honorable use and another for low use?” Rom 9:20-21.

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Likewise, can one complain when the all-knowing and just God manifests some people as “vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,” for example, the rejected Jews?

And when He manifests over others the riches of His glory, as “over vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory”; Rom 9:22-23?

That is, over us, the chosen, the Apostle adds, “whom He called, not only from the Jews, but also from the Gentiles,” according to the prophecies of Hosea and Isaiah; Rom 9:24-29.

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

Although the whole course of the Apostle’s thought clearly shows God’s justice in His predestination, some still could not grasp this distinctly.

Therefore he offers further striking examples of the all-good and all-wise will of God. This will appoints some to salvation and others to perdition.

He points to anyone who builds something according to a plan he has conceived, and especially to a potter. The potter makes vessels from the same clay for uses that differ completely in dignity.

In these examples, at first sight, only the authority of the one who appoints comes to the fore: the builder and the potter, that is, the Creator.

Yet at the same time the dignity of the one appointed is also indicated: the clay, that is, man.

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The Apostle later expresses this directly, saying in verse 22 that the Hebrews, by their quality, deserved only to be utterly destroyed, like defiled vessels.

Yet God spared them according to His mercy and in view of the higher purposes of the divine economy. In that economy the Gentiles were to receive a joyful share.

They proved to be vessels just as fit for the higher purpose as those Jews who were directly prepared for the great honor of being chosen believers in Christ.

The Apostle’s basic thought here is the same as in the earlier examples, especially in the last one. Everything is under the authority of God.

No one can resist this authority, nor even object to it. The creature must submit in silence and reverence to its Creator and Provider.

According to Chrysostom, the Apostle seeks here no other goal than to persuade the hearer to submit to God in all things, and to demand no account from Him in anything.

“As the potter makes what he wishes from the same lump, and no one contradicts him, so do not question or inquire of God why He punishes some and rewards others.

This is true even though they are people of one and the same nation. Instead, reverence Him and imitate the clay.

As it is submissive to the potter’s hands, so you should submit to the decree of the Ruler of the universe. He does not act without purpose, nor at random, though you do not comprehend the mysteries of wisdom.

Yet it does not depend on the potter alone that from the same lump one thing comes out for honorable use and another for low use. Rather, it depends on the use made by those who use the object.

So here also the matter depends on free choice. As Pharaoh became a vessel of wrath by his own lawlessness, so those who were saved became vessels of mercy by their piety.

If the greater part belongs to God, we nevertheless contribute something small from ourselves. Although one must both will and struggle, one must not rely on one’s own struggles.

Rather, one must rely on God’s love for mankind. As the Apostle also said about himself elsewhere: ‘not I, but the grace which was with me’; 1 Cor 15:10.

Why, then, do some become vessels of wrath and others vessels of mercy? By their own free choice.

Yet God, according to His immeasurable goodness, shows mercy to both. He had mercy not only on those being saved, but also on Pharaoh, as much as possible.

Both those being saved and Pharaoh enjoyed the same longsuffering. If Pharaoh was not saved, this was entirely by his own will.”

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

Chrysostom observes: “The Apostle does not immediately give the solution, but first stops the mouth of the objector.

He halts his untimely curiosity and excessive inquisitiveness, places a bridle on him, and teaches him to know the difference between God and man.

He also teaches how incomprehensible and exalted above our understanding God’s providence is, and how everything must submit to God.

He does all this so that, after persuading the hearer, reproving and humbling his will, he may more easily give his solution and make his words certain for the hearer.

He does not say that this cannot be resolved. What, then? He calls the question itself sinful.

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For what has been said by God must be obeyed and not investigated, even if we do not know the reason. Therefore the Apostle says: ‘Who are you, answering back against God?’

Do you see how he destroys and casts down arrogance? ‘Who are you?’ Do you share in God’s rule? Do you sit as judge together with God?

In comparison with God, you cannot even be called something, nor can it be said that you are this or that. Rather, you are nothing.

And to ask, ‘Who are you?’ is more humbling than to say, ‘You are nothing.’ The Apostle’s question also expresses another, greater indignation.

He did not say, ‘Who are you who answer God?’ but ‘who answer back against God.’ That is, you who dispute and resist.

To say, ‘this ought to have been done in this way or that,’ means to quarrel.

Do you see how the Apostle frightened, struck, and made him tremble rather than question and pry?

This is the mark of a skillful teacher: not to follow the wishes of his disciples in everything, but to lead them according to his own will.

First he uproots the thorns, then he sows the seed. He does not immediately give an answer to every question.”

“Will the thing formed say to Him who formed it, ‘Why have You made me thus?’” By “thing formed,” πλάσμα, he means every human product, especially something carved or molded.

There is a similar statement in the prophet Isaiah; see Is 29:16; Is 45:9. This is applied to God by inference, as an example.

The comparison begun here continues in the following verse, which expresses the same thought as this one.

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Passages read together with this verse.

The original text

Greek text, 20 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. ὦ
    ō
    O
    G5599 · ὦ
  2. ἄνθρωπε
    anthrōpe
    a man
    G444 · ἄνθρωπος
  3. μενοῦνγε
    menounge
    nay rather
    G3304 · μενοῦνγε
  4. σὺ
    sy
    you
    G4771 · σύ
  5. τίς
    tis
    who
    G5101 · τίς
  6. εἶ
    ei
    I am
    G1510 · εἰμί
  7. ὁ
    ho
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  8. ἀνταποκρινόμενος
    antapokrinomenos
    I contradict
    G470 · ἀνταποκρίνομαι
  9. τῷ
    tō
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  10. Θεῷ
    theō
    God
    G2316 · θεός
  11. μὴ
    mē
    not
    G3361 · μή
  12. ἐρεῖ
    erei
    to say
    G2036 · ἔπω, ἐρῶ, εἶπον
  13. τὸ
    to
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  14. πλάσμα
    plasma
    a thing formed or fashioned
    G4110 · πλάσμα
  15. τῷ
    tō
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  16. πλάσαντι
    plasanti
    I form
    G4111 · πλάσσω
  17. Τί
    ti
    who
    G5101 · τίς
  18. με
    me
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  19. ἐποίησας
    epoiēsas
    I do
    G4160 · ποιέω
  20. οὕτως
    houtōs
    thus
    G3779 · οὕτω, οὕτως