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2 Corinthians 12:8Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

For which thing, thrice I besought the Lord that it might depart from me.

Douay-Rheims

υπερ τουτου τρις τον κυριον παρεκαλεσα ινα αποστη απ εμου

Greek (Byzantine text)

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9 Church Fathers comment on this verse · 10 commentaries

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

“Three times I entreated the Lord concerning this” (v. 8), that is, many times. And this shows the Apostle’s great humility, because he does not hide that he could not endure the enemy’s snares, but grew weak and prayed to be delivered from them.

Then, He says, My power is revealed when you are in weakness, and when through you, who seem weak, the word of preaching grows and spreads everywhere. Thus, when after countless blows he was led into prison, he captured the jailer. His feet were in the stocks and his hands were in chains. Yet the prison was shaken at midnight when the Apostles sang. Do you see how His power is made perfect in weakness? If Paul had been free and had shaken the prison, what happened would not have been so wondrous. Therefore God says: remain in bonds, and let the walls be shaken on every side. Let the prisoners be released from their chains, so that My power may be seen more clearly. Through you, bound and shackled, all the prisoners are freed.

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What especially struck the jailer then was precisely this: although Paul was held so securely, by prayer alone he could shake the foundations, open the doors of the prison, and release all the prisoners. Not only here, but also with Peter, with Paul himself, and with the other Apostles, one may see that this happens continually. The grace of God is always revealed in persecutions, appears in oppression, and loudly proclaims its power. Therefore He said, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness."

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

“Three times I entreated” means “I entreated many times.” His acknowledgment that he could not endure the devil’s plots and sufferings, and asked for help, also serves as a sign of his humility.

Basil the Great

4th centuryChurch Father

Question 261. Since the Lord promised, "Whatever you ask in prayer with faith, you will receive" (Mt 21:22), and again, "If two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them" (Mt 18:19), how is it that even the saints asked and did not receive? For example, the Apostle said, "Three times I besought the Lord that it might depart from me" (2 Cor 12:8), yet he did not receive what he asked. So also Jeremiah the Prophet and Moses himself.

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Answer. Since our Lord Jesus Christ, having said in prayer, "My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me" (Mt 26:39), then added, "Nevertheless, not My will, but Yours be done" (Lk 22:42), one must know first of all that we are not permitted to ask for everything we desire. Nor do we in every case know how to ask for what is beneficial: "We do not know what to pray for as we ought" (Rom 8:26).

Therefore requests must be made with great circumspection, in accordance with the will of God. Those who are not heard must know that either patience is needed, or an intensification of prayer, according to the Lord's parable "that men ought always to pray and not lose heart" (Lk 18:1), and according to what the Lord says elsewhere: "Because of his persistence he will rise and give him as much as he needs" (Lk 11:8).

Or correction and diligence are also needed, according to what God said to certain people through the prophet: "When you stretch out your hands, I will hide My eyes from you. Even when you multiply prayers, I will not hear. Your hands are full of blood. Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean," and so forth (Isa 1:15-16 and following).

Believers should not doubt that even now many have hands "full of blood." This is clear from the judgment God pronounced upon the one commanded to announce to the people, who kept silence. He said that the "blood" of the sinner would be required from the hands of the "watchman" (Ezek 33:6).

Being assured of the truth and certainty of this, the Apostle said: "I am innocent of the blood of all, for I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God" (Acts 20:26-27). If one who merely keeps silence is shown to be guilty of the blood of sinners, what must be said of those who cause others to stumble by what they do or by what they say?

Sometimes a request is not fulfilled because of the unworthiness of the one who asks. This happened with David, who prayed to build the House of God. He was left aside, not because he was alien to pleasing God, but because he was not judged worthy of this work.

Jeremiah remained unheard because of the sins of those for whom he prayed. Often, too, because through negligence we have missed the time in which the request should have been made, we later prove to be asking untimely and in vain.

Concerning the words, "Three times I besought the Lord that it might depart from me" (2 Cor 12:8), one must know that there are many different causes of external and bodily conditions. God either sends them or permits them according to a divine economy more important than deliverance from those conditions.

Therefore, if someone was able to know that he needed to be freed from distress by petition, he made the request and was heard, like the two blind men in the Gospel, the ten lepers, and many others.

But if someone did not know the reason for which he fell into temptation, since often one must by patience reach the goal for which the temptation was sent upon him, and he asks to be delivered from distress when it must be endured to the end, he is not heard. This is because such a request does not agree with the purpose of God's love for mankind.

The words, "If two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven" (Mt 18:19), explain this very passage. For the discourse concerns the one reproving a sinner and the one reproved.

Since God does not will "the death of the sinner, but that the sinner turn from his way and live" (Ezek 33:11), if the one reproved is contrite in soul and agrees with the intention of the one reproving him concerning any matter. That is, concerning any sin, then whatever forgiveness they ask will be granted them by God, who loves mankind.

But if the one reproved does not agree with the one reproving him, there is not forgiveness but binding, according to what is added: "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven" (Mt 18:18). This fulfills the familiar judgment: "If he refuses even to hear the Church, let him be to you as a heathen and a tax collector" (Mt 18:17).

Ambrose of Milan

4th centuryChurch Father

And the Apostle was not ashamed to ask many times, lest he seem to lack confidence in the Lord’s mercy. Nor did he grieve presumptuously if he did not obtain what he asked the first time.

Therefore, the Apostle said, “I entreated the Lord three times.” He showed that God often does not give us what we ask, because He considers unprofitable what we regard as advantageous.

Ambrosiaster

4th centuryChurch Father

The Apostle asked the Lord three times to remove from him the harmful thorns of the devil, by which he treacherously enters minds and persecutes the servants of God so that they may fall away from Him.

Paul testifies that he did not obtain his request. This was not because he was unworthy, but because, without knowing it, he was asking for what was not to his benefit. He asked that the temptations cease, through which he himself was becoming more perfect.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

“Concerning this I entreated the Lord three times, that it might depart from me. And He said to me: My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness.”

The Apostle showed the weakness of nature, for he says, “I asked for deliverance from temptations.” He also showed the consolation given by the Master, for he said that the abundant gift of grace is enough for consolation.

The weakness and endurance of the preachers clearly reveal the power of the One preached. “Therefore I will most gladly boast rather in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may dwell in me.”

He explained what he had called an “angel of Satan.” Yet, lest anyone think this weakness was a bodily defect, he spoke about it more clearly.

Cassiodorus the Senator

6th centuryChurch Father

Paul asks that the thorn be removed from the flesh, but the Lord does not hear him. The devil begs to be able to break the righteous man Job with the heaviest calamities, and we know that this was permitted to him; see Job 1:13-22; 2:6-13.

The Apostle was denied the fulfillment of his prayer for his own glory, while the devil was allowed to fulfill what he desired for his own punishment. Thus it is often more profitable not to be heard, though the nonfulfillment of our desires oppresses us.

Nicephoros (Theotokis)

18th centuryChurch Father

After his threefold prayer, the tri-hypostatic God heard him and answered him, saying: My grace, which has been given to you, is sufficient to help you against the enemies of the Gospel preaching. By it you speak in various tongues, heal the sick, drive out demons, and raise the dead. This grace is sufficient for you. "My grace is sufficient for you." Do not seek that I remove from you the persecutors of the faith. If no one opposes the preaching, and you are strong and powerful in wealth, might, and authority, no one will regard the preaching of faith as the work of My power. The weaker you are, and the stronger the persecutors are, while the faith still spreads and the number of believers increases, the more the perfection of My power is revealed.

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"For My power is made perfect in weakness." Where nature is powerless, there the most perfect dominion of My power shines forth. When Paul, called by God, heard this, he not only ceased praying for deliverance from his adversaries. Filled with delight, he even boasted chiefly in his infirmities: "Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities." For, he says, in my weaknesses the perfection of God's power appears. Therefore with the greatest delight I will boast that I am weak and powerless, "that the power of Christ may dwell in me," that is, that Jesus Christ may strengthen me to fulfill my apostolic calling.

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

“That it might depart,” that is, the afflicter of the flesh, the angel of Satan. According to the meaning the holy fathers give these words, the Apostle says: may the path of preaching be made smooth. May the attacks be shortened. May I not meet resistance in such strength and continuity.

“The Apostle showed in these words the weakness of nature, for he says, ‘I asked for deliverance from temptations’” (Theodoret).

“Three times” means many times. “And this shows the Apostle’s great humility, because he does not hide that he could not endure the enemy’s snares, but grew weak and prayed to be delivered from them” (Saint Chrysostom).

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Greek text, 10 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. ὑπὲρ
    hyper
    in behalf of
    G5228 · ὑπέρ
  2. τούτου
    toutou
    this
    G3778 · οὗτος
  3. τρὶς
    tris
    three times
    G5151 · τρίς
  4. τὸν
    ton
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  5. Κύριον
    kyrion
    lord
    G2962 · κύριος
  6. παρεκάλεσα
    parekalesa
    I summon
    G3870 · παρακαλέω
  7. ἵνα
    hina
    in order that
    G2443 · ἵνα
  8. ἀποστῇ
    apostē
    I lead away
    G868 · ἀφίστημι
  9. ἀπ᾽
    ap
    from
    G575 · ἀπό
  10. ἐμοῦ
    emou
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ