The Church Fathers on this verse

2 Corinthians 5:13Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

For whether we be transported in mind, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for you.

Douay-Rheims

ειτε γαρ εξεστημεν θεω ειτε σωφρονουμεν υμιν

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

11 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

"If," he says, "we proclaim anything great about ourselves, which he calls 'being beside oneself,' or elsewhere 'folly,' we do it for God, so that you, regarding us as weak, may not become proud and perish. But if we say something humble and self-abasing, we do this for you, so that you may learn humility of mind."

Or his words have this meaning: "If anyone considers us mad, we hope to receive a reward for this from God, for whose sake we fall under such suspicion. But if anyone regards us as humble-minded, let him himself learn humility of mind from us."

And again otherwise: "If anyone considers us mad, let him know that we are thus mad for God." Therefore he adds: "For the love of Christ constrains us, as we judge thus" (v. 14).

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

If we say anything lofty, the Apostle calls this "being beside ourselves," or elsewhere "folly." We do this for God, so that you, regarding us as weak, may not become proud and perish.

But if we say something humble and self-abasing, we do this for you, so that you may learn humility of mind.

Or otherwise: if anyone suspects that we are mad, we hope to receive a reward from God, for whose sake we fall under such suspicion. But if anyone regards us as humble-minded, let him also profit from our humility of mind.

Or again otherwise: if we are mad, then we are thus mad for God, so that we may bring you to Him.

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Paul's madness was the madness of love. Loving God and living, like one in love, by Him alone, that is, by the Beloved, he went out of himself and wholly clung to God. He lived not by his own life, but by the life of the Beloved, as one most greatly loved or beloved.

Therefore, he says, if we are beside ourselves, it is for God.

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

"For we do not again commend ourselves before you, but give you occasion to boast on our behalf, so that you may have something against those who boast in face and not in heart. For if we are beside ourselves (έξέστημεν), it is for God. If we are sober-minded, it is for you."

Behold, Paul again calls Christ God, for he says that it is to Him that "we are beside ourselves." And he explains precisely how he came into ecstasy (έξέστη). Saying: "But far be it from me to boast except in the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world" (Gal 6:14).

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And likewise in other places: "Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I" (2 Cor 11:22). "A Hebrew of Hebrews, according to the Law a Pharisee, according to righteousness under the Law blameless. But whatever things were gain to me, these I counted loss for Christ. Indeed, I count all things as refuse, that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the Law, but that which is through faith in Jesus Christ" (Phil 3:5-9).

Do you see how he renounced (έξέστη) all the boasts that belonged to him according to the Law, in order to gain Christ? The Savior Himself advises us to do this, as if under the form of a parable, saying: "The kingdom of heaven is like a merchant seeking fine pearls, who, having found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had and bought it" (Mt 13:45-46).

Therefore, if the Apostle came into ecstasy (έξέστη) for Christ's sake, and says that he did this for God, how then is the Son not God by nature? And if this is so, He is not a creature.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

What does it mean, "we go out of ourselves for God"? It means that we see what it is not lawful for a man to recount. What does it mean, "we are modest for you"? Hear: "For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified" (1 Cor 2:2). If the Lord Himself ascended and descended, then clearly His preachers also ascend by imitating Him, and descend by preaching Him.

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

For if we go out of our mind, this pertains to God. If we remain firm in our mind, this is for you. That is, if we undergo torments, this gladdens the Godhead, which rejoices in these sufferings. If we overcome by signs, this gladdens your simplicity, which finds the manifestations of miraculous powers pleasing.

Ambrosiaster

4th centuryChurch Father

He says this in the sense that if he speaks in lofty or proud language, as though praising himself while telling the truth, all this should be referred to God. But if his words are understood without pride and to the glory of those who hear, then they are for the benefit of the Corinthians. Everything said is sound for the hearers, provided it is understood in the sense stated here. If not, then what is said will be regarded as boasting, madness before God, for every pride is madness.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

Here the Apostle called humility "sobriety," and the mention of his progress "being beside ourselves." Both, he says, I do with a right intention.

Ivanov A.V.

19th centuryChurch Father

"If we are beside ourselves, it is for God; if we are sober-minded, it is for you." Here the Apostle called the mention of his successes "being beside ourselves," because it could appear to be boasting. He called humility "sobriety." The Apostle's thought is to explain to the Corinthians that he boasted of his successes not to exalt himself before them, but to show the power and glory of God. If he greatly humbles himself, it is to show an example of modesty.

Michail Cheraskov

19th centuryChurch Father

How, then, is the preaching of the Gospel carried out by the labors of Christ's evangelists? That is, around what fundamental truths does it revolve, and what general methods do they use for it? (2 Cor 5:11-7:1).

2 Cor 5:11-14. "Knowing the fear of the Lord, we," says the Apostle, "instruct men." We do not care to recommend ourselves to them, for we know that "we are manifest to God," that is, our merits and true worth are fully known to Him. "I hope that we are manifest also to your consciences," Corinthians, that is, you will not disparage us if you judge us according to conscience.

Slanderers wish to discredit me before you, now for my excessive zeal, now for my excessive quietness. But "if we are beside ourselves, it is for God. If we are sober-minded, it is for you."

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That is, although in general I do nothing personally for myself, as the Apostle might say, nevertheless I sometimes seem to go beyond the limits of modesty and am carried toward self-praise. What is the reason?

"For the love of Christ constrains us," the Apostle explains, "as we judge thus: if One died for all, then all died." That is, the contemplation of Christ's love, who died for the whole universe lying in evil, kindles our heart also with love (St. Chrysostom).

This very love, which moved the Lord Jesus to die for me and for all, also constrains me. It teaches me faithfully where and when, without regard for human judgment, I must boldly defend my rights for the glory of God, or by humility build up the salvation of my brethren.

Nikanor (Kamenski)

19th centuryChurch Father

From the general thoughts of Christian teaching, the Apostle seems to pass to a defense of himself. Yet this defense is conducted in such a way that it is also an unfolding of the work whose representative and accomplisher he was. That work is the preaching of the Gospel, the ways it is carried out, and the essence of its content (vv. 14-18).

First of all, as proof of his faithfulness, the Apostle points to the fact that he has fear before God. This fear must necessarily preserve him in faithfulness to God and in sincerity toward men. This is expressed in his instructing others, thereby warning them away from the eternal destruction of which he had just spoken.

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Further, the Apostle appeals to the testimony of God and of the Corinthians themselves. In their souls, in pure consciences, they ought to have felt, and undoubtedly did feel, that they had seen and knew nothing insincere in the Apostle. For they had already become sufficiently acquainted with him.

To speak this way about oneself is not altogether fitting. Therefore the Apostle qualifies his words, saying that he does this in order to move them to speak the truth about him before the false teachers. These boasted in outward appearance, though in actual worth they were in no way comparable to the Apostle.

The hypocritical false teachers sometimes forced the Apostle into actions and words which seemed to some to go beyond measure. Thus the Apostle says: "If we are beside ourselves, it is for God."

Here Bishop Theophan presents the Apostle as though speaking thus: "Although I know that I am acting foolishly, and as though going out of myself by speaking this way about myself, nevertheless I speak because through this God is glorified by my word and by the salvation of others. Let them consider me mad for this. I gladly bear it for God's sake."

"But if we speak humbly and with self-abasement, we do this for you, so that you may learn humility of mind" (Chrysostom). "The Apostle says this not for his own glory, but to stop the mouths of the false teachers. To the harm of the Corinthians, they boast of their works and boast in the face, that is, in outward deeds performed for show."

Theophan the Recluse

19th centuryChurch Father

The Apostle calls "being beside himself" the fact that he spoke great things about himself. Elsewhere he calls this "folly" (St. Chrysostom). By "sobriety" he means humble speech about himself (Theodoret).

All interpreters understand these concepts alike. But they understand differently in what respect the first is "for God" and the second "for you." From this have come different paraphrases of the text. St. Chrysostom gives as many as three, without showing which should be preferred.

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From this it is clear how difficult it is to point to the precise thought of this passage. "If we are beside ourselves," that is, if to someone I seem to have gone out of myself and not know what I am saying, because I speak of my special election, the revelations given to me, the signs of God performed by me, and other such things.

Yet when I speak of this, I attribute nothing to myself, but refer everything to God. I glorify not myself, but God. For everywhere I proclaim to all that by the grace of God I am what I am, and that though I labored more than all, it was not I who acted, but grace.

Thus, "if we are beside ourselves, it is for God." Someone might reproach me, asking why I speak in this sense. Let those who need to know find out indirectly, not from your own mouth. But I could not remain silent.

It is necessary to tell all that I am God's ambassador and to point out the signs of this. Otherwise, seeing my abasement, someone might abase and despise my preaching as well, reject it, and perish (St. Chrysostom).

This is why, although I know that I am acting foolishly and as though going out of myself when I speak this way about myself, I nevertheless speak. For by this God is glorified through my word and through the salvation of others.

Let them consider me mad for this. I gladly bear it for God's sake. "If anyone considers us mad for this, let him know that we are thus mad for God" (St. Chrysostom).

"If we are sober-minded, it is for you." "But if we say something humble and self-abasing, we do this for you, so that you may learn humility of mind. Or else: if someone considers us humble-minded, let him himself learn humility of mind from us" (St. Chrysostom).

"I do both," he says, "with a right intention" (Theodoret).

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Greek text, 7 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. Εἴτε
    eite
    and if
    G1535 · εἴτε
  2. γὰρ
    gar
    for
    G1063 · γάρ
  3. ἐξέστημεν
    exestēmen
    I astonish
    G1839 · ἐξίστημι
  4. Θεῷ
    theō
    God
    G2316 · θεός
  5. εἴτε
    eite
    and if
    G1535 · εἴτε
  6. σωφρονοῦμεν
    sōphronoumen
    I am sober-minded
    G4993 · σωφρονέω
  7. ὑμῖν
    hymin
    you
    G4771 · σύ