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Job 21:14Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Who have said to God: Depart from us, we desire not the knowledge of thy ways.

Douay-Rheims

וַיֹּאמְר֣וּ לָ֭אֵל ס֣וּר מִמֶּ֑נּוּ וְדַ֥עַת דְּ֝רָכֶ֗יךָ לֹ֣א חָפָֽצְנוּ׃

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The Church Fathers on this verse

6 Church Fathers comment on this verse

Ephraem the Syrian

4th centuryChurch Father

Certainly, God continues to extend His grace to the unrighteous, demonstrating that He bears no animosity against them, so that they cannot claim, "God despises us, therefore He will never grant us the opportunity for repentance." While He may discipline the righteous with severity, His love is generously offered to those who sin. The struggles faced by the virtuous in their earthly lives are merely glimpses of the future rewards for the good deeds they have accomplished.

Ambrose of Milan

4th centuryChurch Father

The feeble person observes that the wicked are granted all their wishes in plenty while he suffers in want. He cries out to the Lord, “Leave me alone; I do not wish to understand Your ways! What benefit is there in our service to Him, or what gain is there in seeking Him? All good things dwell with them; He does not perceive the deeds of the unjust.”

Gregory the Great

6th centuryChurch Father

Who proclaimed to God, "Depart from us" (Job 21:14)? Even the most foolish individuals hesitate to voice such words; yet all unrighteous individuals express this sentiment to God, not through their speech, but through their actions: "depart from us." They engage in behaviors that the Almighty forbids, effectively distancing their souls from Him. Just as obeying His commandments means inviting Him into their hearts, disregarding those commandments results in keeping Him away from the sanctuary of their inner being. Thus, they declare, "Depart from us," as they resist His overtures and assault Him with their wrongful deeds, despite offering lip service to His praise. Furthermore, they assert, "For we do not want to know Thy ways" (Job 21:14).

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This stems from their indifference to seeking knowledge of Him. Some people, aware of the Truth's declarations—for instance, "And that servant, who knew his master's will and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes" (Luke 12:47), while "he who did not know yet committed things deserving of stripes shall be beaten with few" (Lk. 12:48)—choose ignorance, thinking they will face lesser consequences for their lack of understanding. However, there is a significant distinction between ignorance and the conscious choice to remain unknowing. One who yearns for knowledge but cannot attain it is not truly ignorant, whereas one who deliberately turns away from the truth does not simply lack knowledge but actively scorns it. God's path is marked by peace, humility, and patience. Yet the wicked reject these virtues, insisting, "We do not want to know Thy ways." In their arrogance and inflated sense of self-worth, they disregard God's design for their hearts. God's way on Earth exemplifies humility, as our Lord and Redeemer endured scorn, ridicule, and suffering for humanity’s sake. He navigated this world’s adversities with steadfast patience, renouncing earthly wealth to guide us toward the riches of eternal life and to teach us not to fear the trials of this temporal existence. Conversely, the wicked long for the fleeting glory of this life and shun humility; they therefore declare, "We do not want to know Thy ways," as they possess no desire to understand what they contemptuously reject. The continuation of their words is as follows:

Olympiodorus of Alexandria

6th centuryChurch Father

I will express with passion and succinctly reflect on what lies ahead for me, as the agony that afflicts my body defies description. Why do the unrighteous thrive and reach an advanced age, enjoying abundant blessings? Their fields yield plentiful harvests, they take joy in their offspring, they prosper and are free of fear, untouched by the chastisements of the Lord. Their livestock flourish without producing stillbirths, and their wives bear healthy children. They live contentedly, like livestock, free from worry.

Philaret of Moscow (Drosdow)

19th centuryChurch Father

God is everywhere present, yet can those truly reside in His divine presence who not only disregard the pursuit of closeness to Him but, if possible, would urge Him to abandon them, saying ‘Depart from us; thy ways lead us not’ (Job 21:14)? They will reap what they themselves have chosen. ‘Thou art God, O Lord, who dost not wish to engage in wrongdoing, nor will the wicked approach Thee, nor will those devoid of law stand in Thy sight. Those who turn away from Thee shall perish’ (Ps. 5:5-6; 72:27).

Ireneus (Orda)

19th centuryCommentator

Job ceases to seek solace from his companions; his desire is solely for their silence, allowing him to voice his grievances about his afflictions until the very end (21: 1-6). Despite their futile attempts to illustrate the fate of the wicked, who are punished after brief periods of joy, Job observes that there are far greater instances of the wicked thriving and finding happiness in life (7-13). They dismiss the idea of Divine Providence (14-15); the prospect of sudden demise does not instill fear in them (16-18), nor are they troubled by the tragic destinies of their descendants (19-21). Who, in light of this, can claim to speak for God regarding how happiness and suffering are allocated among humanity (22)? For God, both the unrighteous and the righteous encounter the same end (23-26).

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Only Job's companions maintain that the wicked are destined to meet their downfall (27-28). However, lived experience reveals that the wicked often enjoy life and experience a peaceful death (29-33). Thus, Job concludes that their arguments are without substance (34). In this part of the dialogue, Job's friends move from vague insinuations and allegations of hidden sins to outright condemnations of his integrity and pride, threatening him with dire retribution while clinging to their belief in the unavoidable punishment for wrongdoing. Conversely, Job increasingly asserts his confidence in his righteousness and his conviction in the fallacious nature of his friends' opinions, attributing the joys and sorrows of mankind not to personal virtue but to the unfathomable designs of Divine Providence.

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