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Psalm 58 (57):10Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Before your thorns could know the brier; he swalloweth them up, as alive, in his wrath.

Douay-Rheims · Hebrew numbering, Septuagint numbering in brackets.

בְּטֶ֤רֶם יָבִ֣ינוּ סִּֽירֹתֵיכֶ֣ם אָטָ֑ד כְּמוֹ־חַ֥י כְּמוֹ־חָ֝ר֗וֹן יִשְׂעָרֶֽנּוּ׃

Hebrew (Masoretic text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

7 Church Fathers comment on this verse

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

What is a thorn? Among thorny plants, it refers to those species that bear the sharpest thorns. Initially, it is a blade of grass; although it appears soft and beautiful, it still grows thorns. Similarly, sinful pleasures may seem delightful and without sting. This grass embodies a thorn; even now, thorns still persist. A thorn gives rise to more thorns; before the wretched pleasures and fleeting joys, there is evident sorrow. Let those who desire something unattainable reflect on their torment; they should consider whether their longing inflicts suffering. And when they obtain that which they illicitly covet, let them be aware of the torment of anxiety that follows.

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They should acknowledge their punishments in this life; prior to that resurrection, when those who have risen in the flesh will not undergo transformation. For we shall all rise, but we will not all be transformed. (1 Cor. 15:51) The corrupt flesh will endure suffering, but not to the extent of death; otherwise, even such pains would cease. Then will the thorns that pierce arise, signifying all pain and torment. These painful thorns represent what we have sometimes mocked: (Prem. 5:3) thorns which evoke tears of repentance, though they come too late and are unfruitful, much like the thorns themselves. The repentance of this age brings healing from pain; while the repentance of that age is punishment for pain. Would you bear these thorns? In the present, you will be pricked by the thorns of repentance, fulfilling the words spoken, “I turned in sorrow when the thorn pierced my heart; I acknowledged my sin, and my guilt was not hidden; I proclaimed my transgressions before the Lord, and You forgave the iniquity of my heart.” Now, fulfill this, now be pierced, so you can discern whether the fate mentioned about certain wicked individuals, “They were cleaved but not pierced,” has befallen you. Observe those who are split open yet not pierced. You witness individuals torn apart, yet they remain unpierced. Here they are within the church, with no sorrow for their return to wholeness from their division. The thorns shall surely grow thorns in the future. Presently, they lack healing from their piercing; in the future, they will face punishment. Even before the thorns bear their thorns, a fire has descended upon them, obscuring their sight from the sun; that is, the wrath of God consumes them while they breathe. This fire of sinful desires, empty accolades, pride, selfish interests, and all that burdens them prevents them from seeing the truth, so they do not appear subdued, nor do they yield to the truth itself. What could be more glorious, dear friends, than being subdued and conquered by the truth? Allow the truth to overpower you; for whether you desire it or not, it will inevitably conquer you. The torments of the underworld have not yet arrived, the eternal fire is not yet upon them: let the one who now thrives in God compare themselves to the wicked person, the blind heart with the enlightened soul: reflect upon the two—one who sees and one who is blind in the flesh. What is the significance of merely seeing in the flesh? Did Tobiah possess physical sight? (Tob. 4:3-19) His son did, while he did not; yet the seeing man guided the blind man towards the path of life. Therefore, when you witness such chastisement, rejoice, for you are not within it.

Athanasius the Great

4th centuryChurch Father

Before you comprehend the thorns of your ramnah, which represents a thorny plant, the prophet is alluding to a crown of thorns. Prior to your thorns, signifying your sins, maturing and becoming ramnus, which means to thrive and produce fruit, the divine judgment will descend upon you.

Theodoret of Cyrus

5th centuryChurch Father

Simmah clarifies it more effectively: before your thorns develop and the ramnus takes shape from them, the whirlwind will sweep away those who remain, as if they were entirely withered. This conveys the following meaning: Sacred Scripture regards every sin as a thorn, while the ramnus represents a thorn of considerable size, likened to a tree. Consequently, this prophecy warns Saul and his followers of immediate retribution. It conveys to them, ‘Before your treachery matures and resembles a ramnus, that is, a colossal thorn, the judgment of God will descend upon you and render you as nothing. Just as what is consumed becomes unseen, so shall you be rendered void. This came to pass, as Saul, shortly thereafter, suffering injury in combat with the tribesmen, ceased to return the deception and unintentionally halted his conflict with David.

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryCommentator

Before you comprehend the significance of the thorns of your transgressions, David speaks to Saul and those surrounding him, echoing Athanasius's assertion that the fire of God's indignation shall descend upon you and your allies, Saul, before your iniquities multiply. To enhance our understanding, we must note that the sacred Scripture refers to sin as thorns, and ramnus denotes a particular plant filled with sharp thorns, one of the strongest among them. Thus, David articulates that the fire of divine wrath shall fall upon you, Saul, before the thorns emerge, meaning your sins shall solidify into a pattern, thriving and strengthening like ramnus, or, in other words, before your wicked actions swell and expand beyond measure.

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Indeed, it manifested as such; Saul's time in wickedness was short-lived; he died by his own hand due to a wound received in battle against his enemies. I shall (as it were) live, and I shall consume in wrath. He speaks of the consuming fury of God that will overtake Saul and his confederates, leaving them alive in form but devoid of true life; for Saul, having received revelation of his impending doom, existed merely in pretense. Thus, they are depicted as being under the weight of divine wrath, indicating the severe ruin that was imminent. He will devour them, illustrating the ease with which their destruction will occur. Simmachus conveys this meaning: before your thorns develop and take shape, the storm will raise those still among the living, for nothing is truly secure. This translation conveys the idea that every sin is denoted as a thorn in divine Scripture due to its capacity to wound and inflict harm. The thorn, large and white, resembles a tree in size, but inherently dry; and upon encountering fire, it is immediately consumed, lacking any green bark, appearing dead. Consequently, this prophecy warns Saul and his companions of impending judgment: for before the wickedness within you grows and becomes like ramnus—the most formidable thorn—while you persist in your sinful acts, seemingly alive therein, the wrath of God, resembling fire, will swiftly confront and annihilate you. He conveys this with the term: devour; for that which is consumed is made to vanish, and so too shall you be forgotten. This notion is similarly expressed by Theodoret, though with slight variations. Chrysostom states that thorns represent the wicked, while ramnus symbolizes the cross, as ramnus is a thorny plant, and the cross bore thorns, bearing our sins. Thus, before they grasped the power of the cross, they were warned of being consumed alive (for those without faith do not truly live); not in anger (devour) but rather as if in wrath (for God is not wrathful); yet following their realization of the cross's power, they are no longer subjects of wrath.

Irenaeus (Klementjewsky)

18th centuryCommentator

He employs the final comparison to convey that these evil individuals will be utterly removed and consumed before they can carry out their malicious plans. Why is this? Because the fire of God's anger will engulf them as the earth swallowed Dathan and Abiram alive. Saul met his end before he could find joy in David's demise. Likewise, Diocletian, Maximian, and other persecutors of the church faced their downfall before witnessing the complete ruin of the Christians, a sight they ardently wished to see. This analogy reflects the practice of farmers who discard thorns before they have a chance to grow strong and flourish. In essence, it signifies that before your wickedness can fully develop and thrive like thorns, the Lord will consume you in His wrath. For either the earth will engulf the living, or the sea will carry them away.

Psalter with Commentaries (Cave Monastery in Kiew)

19th centuryCommentator

The Prophet, guided by the Holy Spirit, chastises his oppressors and all those who are wicked, particularly the lawless Jews, for their futile rebellion against the Lord Christ, who embodies no malice. In their madness, they endeavor to tarnish the incorruptible and extinguish His divine majesty and honor, the name of which is eternally inscribed: King of Kings and Lord of Lords (Rev. 19:16). Such scorn is fitting for unjust judges and authorities, whose wrongful judgments and malevolent actions distort the truth and incite a persecution akin to that faced by Christ at the hands of the Jews. Christ, the Just One, stands as the avenger of death and hell. The act of washing one's hands in blood—an attempt to cleanse oneself of guilt—recalls Pilate, who sought to absolve himself of responsibility for the blood of Christ.

Sergius Ternowski

19th centuryCommentator

God will shatter the teeth of the wicked in their mouths. This marks the beginning of comfort for the righteous. The prophet conveys that God will dismantle the defenses of the unjust, leading to their ruin like torrents of water or melting wax. Through these three images, the prophet seems to indicate that first, the wicked will relinquish their animosity; second, they will transform from arrogance to humility; and third, they will develop a softened disposition akin to melted wax. The prophet then shifts focus back to the wicked, warning them of their imminent destruction. He likens them to a thornbush, and this analogy is clear. He tells them that just as thorns yield prickly needles, so too do they harbor malicious intentions in their hardened hearts aimed at harming the righteous.

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However, these thorns will not have the opportunity to flourish; at the very outset of their existence, they will be consumed by the fire of God’s wrath. In other words, they will not be permitted to act on their malevolent schemes before the Lord unleashes His judgment upon them. As stated previously, the prophet illustrated it differently: fire rained upon them, and they were blind to the light of the sun.

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