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Job 14:21Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

Whether his children come to honour or dishonour, he shall not understand.

Douay-Rheims

יִכְבְּד֣וּ בָ֭נָיו וְלֹ֣א יֵדָ֑ע וְ֝יִצְעֲר֗וּ וְֽלֹא־יָבִ֥ין לָֽמוֹ׃

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John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

He states that when a person endures discipline, even in the presence of numerous offspring, he remains unaware of it. Following his death, he often misses out on the abundance he might have experienced throughout his life. What benefit is there in leaving behind children if one has already departed? The speaker emphasizes the fleeting nature of human existence and the impossible task of returning to life. He suggests that even if a man has children, he remains oblivious to the blessings he could have enjoyed. Whether he leaves behind few or many heirs, he is still unaware. It is indeed tragic when a man fails to recognize his own fortune, departing alone and aware of his own trials. Should any good fortune arise after his death, he remains ignorant of it and unaware of such developments, only feeling the pain of his body and the anguish of his soul.

Gregory the Great

6th centuryChurch Father

Verse 21. The distinction between whether his children shall be esteemed or held in disgrace is of no concern to him. Job 14:21. 26. Just as the living are unaware of the fate of the deceased souls and where they might dwell, so too do the departed lack knowledge of the lives led by those who remain in the flesh. The spiritual existence is vastly different from the corporeal life, as physical and non-physical entities are inherently dissimilar; thus, there is also a disparity in understanding. However, this does not apply to the holy souls, who behold the radiance of the Almighty God and possess complete knowledge.

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Yet, because earthly individuals tend to direct their affections primarily towards their offspring, blessed Job observes that they remain oblivious to what they cherished deeply in their hearts, hence ‘Whether his sons shall be in honour or in dishonour he does not feel,’ reflecting the focus that has preoccupied their thoughts. MORAL INTERPRETATION This must also be comprehended in a spiritual context, for the term ‘sons’ aptly refers to our deeds, as Paul mentions regarding the woman: notwithstanding, she shall be saved in childbearing 1 Tim. 2:15, indicating that salvation is not exclusive to those who have borne children, but that good works connect her to eternal salvation. Therefore, sons in honour represent virtuous actions, while sons in dishonour symbolize wicked deeds. Often, a person may strive to act for good but is unaware of how their intentions will be judged by the Almighty due to the many unforeseen circumstances surrounding their efforts. Thus, ‘Whether his sons will be in honour or in dishonour, he does not feel,’ for he cannot ascertain whether his actions will receive divine approval or condemnation when subjected to the meticulous scrutiny of Judgment. In this life, man grapples with the burdens of toil, while in the afterlife, he is met with dread and uncertainty, leading him to become increasingly accustomed to the labor of the present world.

Ireneus (Orda)

19th centuryCommentator

Although humanity can be likened to a tree that continues to grow new limbs from its roots after being cut down—man may have a hope of resurrection one day—this expectation does little to alleviate his suffering. In his distress, he wishes for an end to his trials, as even the strongest stones are worn away by the persistent flow of water; this is akin to the limits of human endurance. From the evaluation of the dialogues so far, it becomes evident that Job, recognizing the sinful nature of humanity and the influence of divine Providence on human happiness or suffering, asserts through his own experiences that a person's fate cannot solely be attributed to their moral actions. Rather, it is contingent upon other hidden decrees from God.

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Consequently, he not only seeks relief from his afflictions but also inquires about their origins. In contrast, Job's friends, adhering to the notion of human sinfulness, only consider the direct relationship between earthly well-being and moral behavior. They interpret each hardship as divine punishment for sin, and when they cannot identify any overt transgressions, they are quick to suspect Job of concealed wrongdoings.

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