The Church Fathers on this verse

Mark 9:32Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

And they came to Capharnaum. And when they were in the house, he asked them: What did you treat of in the way?

Douay-Rheims

οι δε ηγνοουν το ρημα και εφοβουντο αυτον επερωτησαι

Greek (Byzantine text)

The Church Fathers on this verse

7 Church Fathers comment on this verse

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

Matthew recounts that at a certain moment, the disciples approached Jesus and inquired, “Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” In response, Jesus brought a child into their midst and said, “Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.” While Mark includes a similar account, he does not capture all that Matthew has, and he includes elements absent from Matthew's narrative. From our understanding, it seems Peter's inquiry about the frequency of forgiving a brother has been omitted from their dialogue; yet, the Lord's reply clearly links this exchange with the ongoing conversation.

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In contrast, Luke focuses solely on the child Jesus presented as an example for the disciples when they consider their own significance, introducing fragments that echo parts of the dialogue but situated elsewhere and under different contexts. Likewise, after the resurrection, John records the Lord's teachings on forgiving sinners, noting that sins would remain upon them unless they were forgiven by the disciples, while Matthew presents the same teachings within this current discussion, earlier directing them toward Peter. We should not hesitate to acknowledge that the Lord may have reiterated similar teachings in various contexts, as has been emphasized previously. When encountering these teachings in an inconsistent arrangement, we must remember this principle, eliminating the need for endless explanations regarding the same concepts.

Alexander Gorsky

19th centuryCommentator

As they journeyed toward Capernaum, a discussion emerged among the apostles regarding who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven—the Messiah. The motivation behind this inquiry and who initiated it remains unclear. However, one might speculate that the question was prompted by the previous distinctions the Lord had made among certain apostles, particularly the recent special acknowledgment of Peter, James, and John, who were invited to pray privately with Him. This conversation soon transformed into an argument, revealing that some among them were eager to flaunt their own achievements.

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The Lord, perhaps due to the presence of outsiders, refrained from engaging in their debate at that moment, choosing instead to address them later with stronger admonitions aimed at those who prided themselves on their merits and led others into sin. Once they were alone, Jesus turned to the topic that had preoccupied them during their journey, seeking their own acknowledgement of the matter. The ones at fault found themselves reluctant to respond, fully aware that the Lord knew their hearts, just as He recognized that Peter had, without His knowledge, made an ill-considered vow (Matt. 17:24).

Bogolepow D.P.

19th centuryCommentator

In the Gospel of Luke, it is noted that Jesus, discerning the inner thoughts of His disciples, taught them about the principle of humility. In the account of Mark, it is mentioned that Christ arrived at a house in Capernaum and inquired about what they were discussing. When they fell silent, embarrassed to admit they were arguing about who was the greatest, He began to instruct them on humility. Additionally, in the Gospel of Matthew, the disciples approached Jesus, asking, “Who is greater in the kingdom of heaven?” This does not create any conflict between the narratives of Luke and Mark. It is possible that the disciples initially did not speak up, and later one of them felt bold enough to ask the question they all had in their minds.

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In response to their inquiry, Jesus, as recorded by Mark, first articulated the overarching principle that governs the relationships among the members of His new kingdom, saying that anyone who desires to be first must be the last of all and the servant of all.

He then called a child to stand among them and embraced him, indicating that the qualities associated with children—such as humility, lack of pride, and unawareness of social status—are essential virtues for true followers in the kingdom of heaven. Following this, He provided guidance on how His apostles should interact with children, instructing them that whoever receives a child in His name—signifying their belief in Him and membership in His kingdom—receives Him. This teaching also encompasses the literal child, seen as one who, being weak and yet to achieve merit through faith and piety, embodies the least among the members of God's kingdom. Primarily, however, the Lord directs His apostles' attitudes toward children in the spiritual sense, referring to new believers, who, like children, may lack strength in faith and have yet to mature in good works.

Gladkow B.I.

19th centuryCommentator

While the apostles journeyed with their Master to Capernaum, they kept a certain distance from Him and engaged in a discussion. Upon arriving in Capernaum, Jesus inquired of the apostles, ‘What were you discussing among yourselves on the way?’

Lopuchin A.P.

19th centuryCommentator

As they journeyed toward Capernaum, a dispute arose among the disciples regarding who among them would hold the highest rank in the kingdom of heaven. The Saviour, aware of their disagreements, questioned them about their conversation once they reached the city. This prompted a moment of reflection, leading to their shame over the argument. Christ then took a child, positioned him among them, and encouraged them to adopt the qualities of children—specifically their innocence, humility, and simplicity—stating that only with such a spirit could they enter the kingdom of heaven. In this illustrative manner, He reiterated the teachings He had previously shared during the Sermon on the Mount, which they had unfortunately overlooked.

Michail (Lusin)

19th centuryCommentator

The teaching of Christ regarding greatness in His kingdom is presented by Mark in a more concise manner than Matthew. While Mark's account is briefer, he compensates for this in various ways. According to Matthew, the disciples posed a question to the Lord about who was greatest in the kingdom of heaven, whereas Mark narrates that the Lord inquired what they had been discussing amongst themselves, leading to their silence as they contemplated their aspirations for prominence. This suggests that there was a conversation among the disciples in Capernaum regarding Peter's potential precedence over the other Apostles as they journeyed to the house where the Lord resided.

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Understanding their inner thoughts, the Lord approached them in the house and asked what they had been discussing during their walk, with the intent to provide them with solid teaching. Initially reluctant to disclose the turmoil within their hearts, they chose to remain silent. However, recognizing that their thoughts could no longer be concealed, they framed their question to the Master in a general way, asking who would be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. The Lord then sat down, called the disciples to Him, and stated, "Whoever desires to be first...".

Paul Matwejewski

19th centuryCommentator

The disciples, as Blessed Theophylact observes, were still burdened by "human thoughts" when they engaged in discussion on their journey, which led the Savior to impart a critical lesson on moral character. Once they reached the house, the disciples approached the Lord with the question, "Who is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven?" Understanding their aspirations, Jesus cautioned them, asking, “What were you reasoning about on the road?” They fell silent, ashamed to admit they had been debating amongst themselves the issue of greatness. Thereupon, the Lord sat down, called the twelve apostles over, and instructed them: “Whoever desires to be first among you shall be the servant of all.” This precept, subsequently clarified by Jesus (Matt.

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20:25-28), does not negate the existence of hierarchy within His Church, which He has established (Eph. 4:11). It does permit the longing for higher honor, yet it condemns usurping others’ positions and encourages the pursuit of greatness through humility. To illustrate the lesson of humility more vividly, the Lord brought forth a child, placed it before them, and declared, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like little children, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven.” According to St. John Chrysostom, a child embodies the absence of envy, pride, or a wish for superiority, instead showcasing the pure virtues of simplicity, innocence, and humility. These traits, characteristic of an untainted child's spirit, transform into the moral foundation of a mature believer’s spiritual life. The Lord continued, stating that “whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven.” Those who adopt the humility, innocence, and childlike simplicity of an unblemished soul truly embody Christ’s teachings. Jesus added, “Whoever receives one such child in My name receives Me, and whoever receives Me receives not Me but Him who sent Me; for he who is least among you all is the one who is great.”

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Passages read together with this verse.

The original text

Greek text, 9 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. οἱ
    hoi
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  2. δὲ
    de
    but
    G1161 · δέ
  3. ἠγνόουν
    ēgnooun
    I do not know
    G50 · ἀγνοέω
  4. τὸ
    to
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  5. ῥῆμα
    rhēma
    a thing spoken
    G4487 · ῥῆμα
  6. καὶ
    kai
    and
    G2532 · καί
  7. ἐφοβοῦντο
    ephobounto
    I fear
    G5399 · φοβέω
  8. αὐτὸν
    auton
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  9. ἐπερωτῆσαι
    eperōtēsai
    I interrogate
    G1905 · ἐπερωτάω