The Church Fathers on this verse

John 8:41Meaning & Commentary from the Church Fathers

You do the works of your father. They said therefore to him: We are not born of fornication: we have one Father, even God.

Douay-Rheims

υμεις ποιειτε τα εργα του πατρος υμων ειπον ουν αυτω ημεις εκ πορνειας ου γεγεννημεθα ενα πατερα εχομεν τον θεον

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The Church Fathers on this verse

10 Church Fathers comment on this verse

John Chrysostom

4th centuryChurch Father

What are you saying? You have God as Father, and you accuse Christ when He says this? Do you see that He called God His Father in a special sense?

Since He removed them from kinship with Abraham, they had nothing to say against this and dared something still greater: they took refuge in God.

The Jews also said, "We were not born of fornication." Although many of them had been born even of fornication, because they had unlawful marriages, He does not convict them of this, but continues to speak about the former matter.

"We have one Father, God." See what they boast in: honor, not deeds. But whence did it come to their mind to take refuge in God? Christ showed that they were unworthy of Abraham.

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So, to escape this, they took refuge in something greater. Since He had reproached them with murder, by this they say, as though in some justification of themselves, that they are avenging God.

But Christ shows that this very thing is a mark of those who oppose God.

Theophylact of Bulgaria

11th centuryChurch Father

But they again say, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, God." See what arrogance. The Lord denies their kinship even with Abraham, but they are so vainglorious that in their madness they call themselves children of God Himself.

They boast in divine sonship, probably because they had heard the words, "Israel is My firstborn son" (Ex 4:22). But they should have known that God also said elsewhere, "I have begotten and exalted sons, but they have rebelled against Me" (Is 1:2).

The Lord could have convicted them of the fact that many of them were born of fornication. Contrary to the Law, Hebrew women entered into relations with Gentiles, and Gentile women with Jews.

Yet He does not do this. He was not concerned to prove their bodily lack of nobility, but chiefly wished to prove that they were base in soul.

Cyrill of Alexandria

5th centuryChurch Father

“You do the works of your father.”

Having shown that the Jews have a character unlike that of their forefather, and are very far from his love of God, He rightly removes their vain boasting in the flesh. Then, after plainly saying that they ought not to be numbered among his children, He assigns them to another father who corresponds to them.

He sees in the likeness of works a kind of bond of kinship. He teaches that the good should be joined to the good. Regarding those who lead an evil life, He determines that those known for the same things should be considered their fathers.

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Those who have chosen the good life and so have received the name of saints may safely call God their Father. They strive, according to the measure possible for men, to imitate Him. So also it is just that “the evil one” should be assigned as father to the wicked.

For in their characters they imprint the image of his wickedness and immorality. Especially in Holy Scripture, a father is not always the one who begets from himself. A father is also one who has people conformed to his own character. For this reason he is called their father.

So also blessed Paul writes to some in an epistle: “For in Christ Jesus I begot you through the Gospel” (1 Cor 4:15). Therefore, let us repeat, through likeness of character and holiness some become conformed to God and to the holy fathers. Likewise, through their own depravity, some become of one mind with the devil and with those of like character with him.

Thus the saints should have holy fathers. The wicked, on the contrary, should have wicked fathers. The former imprint the divine image in their souls as far as possible through holiness. Having the boldness fitting for legitimate sons, they will rightly say: “Our Father in heaven” (Mt 6:9).

The evil, likewise, must belong to the father who corresponds to them. They are, as it were, begotten through likeness to him into equal depravity. Thus Christ determines and names for the Jews another father besides holy Abraham. But who he is, He does not yet state clearly.

“They said to Him: We were not born of fornication. We have one Father, God.”

Before this, on Jn 8:39, I already said that the Jews, brazen in everything, suffered from the disease of extremely impious opinions about Christ the Savior. They thought that the Holy Virgin, the Mother of the Lord, was found to be with child not from the Holy Spirit or from an action from above, but from one of those who dwell on earth.

Being unbelievers and complete fools, they either attached no importance to the prophetic writings, though they had clearly heard, “Behold, the Virgin shall conceive and bear a Son” (Is 7:14). Or else, looking only at the flesh and following our human laws, they did not acknowledge the Nature that acts beyond reason and beyond nature.

For that Nature nothing is difficult, and everything willed is easily attainable. They therefore thought that a woman could not bear in the womb except through intercourse and union with a man. Subject to this opinion, wretched men, they dared to slander the divine and wondrous birth through the Holy Spirit.

And since He removes them from kinship with Abraham and assigns them to another father, they fall into great rage. Lifting up without restraint the anger native to them, they speak abusively: “We were not born of fornication. We have one Father, God.”

By a veiled hint they speak as though saying this: You Yourself have two fathers, and You were not born of an honorable marriage, but we have one Father, God.

Let everyone see and clearly notice what madness they suffer from here also. Because of their wickedness and depravity, the righteous Judge did not place them among Abraham’s children. Yet they reach such madness that they call God their Father.

Perhaps they were thinking of what is said in the books of Moses: “Israel is My firstborn son” (Ex 4:22). But they did not consider what was said through Isaiah: “Woe, rebellious children, says the Lord” (Is 30:1).

One may rightly ask what moved the Jews in the present case no longer to say, “Our father is Abraham,” or, “We have one father, Abraham,” but to rise directly to “the one God.” It seems to me that they reasoned within themselves in this way.

Since they were reviling the Lord because His Mother had supposedly been corrupted before marriage, and since they attributed two fathers to Him, they tried to name one father for themselves in order to strengthen their malicious thought.

By asserting that they have “one Father, God,” they indirectly shame the Lord with two fathers, setting one in opposition to two. They thought that by saying, “We have one father, Abraham,” they would reject others, I mean Isaac, Jacob, and his twelve sons.

Had they done this, they would already have contradicted themselves and armed themselves against their own desire and boast. They would have deprived Israel of the nobility of its fathers, and thereby finally agreed with the Lord’s words.

Thus, avoiding what seemed to them the difficulty arising from this, they no longer say, “We have one father, Abraham.” Instead they ascribe to themselves “one Father, God.” They are carried away only by the dangerous pleasure of accusation.

They thereby fall under all the greater guilt, since they commit every impiety while daring to receive as their Father the Physician of every impiety.

The Jews, brazen in everything, suffered from the disease of extremely impious opinions about Christ the Savior. They thought that the Holy Virgin, the Mother of the Lord, was found to be with child not from the Holy Spirit or from an action from above, but from one of those who dwell on earth.

Being unbelieving and complete fools, they either attached no importance to the prophetic writings, though they had clearly heard, “Behold, the Virgin shall conceive and bear a Son” (Is 7:14). Or else, looking only at the flesh and following our human laws, they did not acknowledge the Nature that acts beyond reason and beyond nature.

For that Nature nothing is difficult, and everything willed is easily attainable. They thought that a woman could not bear in the womb except through intercourse and union with a man. Subject to this opinion, wretched men, they dared to slander the divine and wondrous birth through the Holy Spirit.

Augustine of Hippo

5th centuryChurch Father

For they seemed to begin to understand that the Lord was speaking not of birth according to the flesh, but of a way of life.

Since the Scriptures of which they speak usually call it fornication when the soul, like a public woman, gives herself to many false gods, they answered this: "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, God" (Jn 8:41).

For the moment He still does not say who their father is. What answer did they give Him? They began to perceive that the Lord was not speaking about descent according to the flesh, but about a way of life.

Since in the Scriptures which they read it is customary to call it fornication in a spiritual sense when the soul, like a harlot, submits to many false gods (cf. Wis 14:12; Jer 3:2), they answered as follows.

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"They said to Him, 'We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, God'" (Jn 8:41). Abraham had already lost significance.

They were at a loss how to answer the One Who spoke the truth. Abraham was the man whose deeds they did not imitate, though they boasted of descent from him.

They changed their answer, saying, as I think, among themselves: "However many times we mention Abraham, He will say to us, 'Why do you not imitate him whose descent you boast of?'

"We cannot become like such a holy, righteous, and innocent man. Let us say that our Father is God, and let us see what He will answer us."

Did falsehood really find something to say, and will truth not find something to answer? Let us listen to what they said, and let us hear what they heard.

"We have one Father," they said, "God."

Euthymios Zigabenos

11th centuryChurch Father

"You do the works of your father": murder and every other evil.

"They said to Him, 'We were not born of fornication; we have one Father, God.'" Since Jesus Christ had soundly proved that they were unworthy to have Abraham as their father, in which they greatly boasted, they now foolishly appeal to having God as their Father.

They do this according to the words of Scripture, "Israel is My firstborn son" (Ex 4:22). But Jesus Christ also takes this honor from them, likewise for sound reasons.

Why did they dare to call God their Father, when they were angry at Jesus Christ because He called God His Father? Because Jesus Christ called Him His Father by nature.

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By the words, "We were not born of fornication," they point to the peoples who came from Ishmael, who was born to Abraham from cohabitation with the slave Hagar.

They themselves descended from Isaac, who was born from Abraham's lawful marriage with Sarah, the mistress of Hagar herself.

Some say that these accursed men spoke thus in order to insult Jesus Christ. That is, they were hinting that He was not Joseph's natural Son.

When they wished to belittle Him, they called Him the Son of Joseph, saying now one thing and now another, and never agreeing with the truth.

Although many of them were born of fornication, since there were many unlawful marriages among the Jews, Jesus Christ is silent about this, hastening to what is more important.

Bogolepow D.P.

19th centuryChurch Father

The Jews, though unclearly, should have understood that if Jesus Christ acknowledges their bodily descent from Abraham, yet attributes their deeds and actions to the influence of another father, then He distinguishes bodily sonship from spiritual sonship.

But in order to object, they imagine only a bodily father. In response to Christ's words, "You do what you have seen with your father," they again remind Him of their descent from Abraham.

Considering now only the spiritual relation to Abraham, Jesus Christ refuses to recognize in His hearers the dignity of Abraham's children. As proof He points to their desire to kill Him, a Man Who has told them God's truth.

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"I have done nothing to you except tell you the truth which I heard from God. Yet you seek to kill Me. Abraham did not do this. On the contrary, faith and obedience to God made him the father of believers.

"Your murderous inclinations against Me are the works of your father."

Gladkow B.I.

19th centuryChurch Father

“Therefore you cannot call yourselves sons of Abraham. You have another father, and you do his works. You do what he wants.” “We were not born of fornication,” the Pharisees said. “Our father is Abraham. And if You are speaking of another father, we all have one Father, God.”

Michail (Lusin)

19th centuryChurch Father

The Lord again did not say whom He meant by their father. Yet they clearly saw that He denied their sonship to Abraham.

Whom, then, they thought, does He consider our father? If Abraham is not our father, but another is, then it would follow in this case that we were born of adultery, Sarah with another man.

But this is absurd. It contradicts the clear testimony of the books of Moses, that Sarah bore Isaac from Abraham, and from Isaac Jacob was born, and from Jacob the twelve patriarchs, ancestors of the Hebrew people.

This is the sense of the Jews' answer: we were not born of adultery, and therefore we are Abraham's children.

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But if, their thought continues, You do not consider Abraham our father, then do You mean father not in a bodily sense, but spiritually? In that sense we have one Father, God.

The Jews could call God their Father not only in the general sense, as Father of all by creation (Mal 2:10), and as Father in the theocratic sense (Is 63:16).

They could also do so by virtue of the special promise and special action at the birth of Abraham's son Isaac (Rom 4:19; Gal 4:23; cf. Gen 18:14; Gen 21:1-3).

Philaret (Gumilevski)

19th centuryChurch Father

"We have one Father, God," say those who chase after civil freedom. "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded and came from God; for I did not come of Myself, but He sent Me."

It is unnatural for children of God to persecute the Messenger of God. The children of God, reverencing the will of the heavenly Father, reverence the One sent by Him. If it is otherwise, they are not children of God.

The reasoning is simple and incontestably true. By it one may easily test the worth of every zealot for civil freedom.

If he rebels against lawful authority, and if he violates God's law to reach his goal, he is worthless, whatever he may say about himself.

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"I proceeded from God and came into the world," says the Savior. Proceeding indicates the point of origin. Coming indicates the point of approach toward the goal of movement.

In both cases movement is not meant in the strict sense, as this is also used of God in Gen 15:4; Gen 35:11; Ex 1:5; Is 48:1.

The proceeding of the Son of God from the Father is twofold. He proceeded from eternity, that is, He was begotten. He also proceeded in time, when He took human nature upon Himself for the salvation of men.

Here the Savior speaks of His temporal proceeding. We are always in Him, yet we come to Him when we believe in Him with living and fruitful faith.

So also He is always with us, yet He was among us when He lived on earth. "His coming is His humanity; His abiding is His Godhead. His Godhead is where we go; His humanity is the way by which we go.

"If He were not the way by which we can go, we would never reach Him Who abides." Thus blessed Augustine reasons (In Iohan. tract. 42. n. 8).

"I did not come of Myself" is said so that the insolent might not consider Him one of the false prophets, of whom it was said, "I did not send them; they ran. I did not speak to them; they prophesied" (Jer 23:21).

Wlastow G.K.

19th centuryChurch Father

The Jews finally begin to understand that the Lord is reproaching them for moral decline and reminding them both of the promises and of the rebukes of the prophets.

"Israel is My son," the Lord said (Ex 4:22). And, "The Lord God carried you, Israel, as a man carries his son" (Deut 1:31), and "He teaches you as a man teaches his son" (Deut 8:5). Cf. also Mal 1:6; 2, and many others.

But then the Lord, through the mouths of the prophets, called the sons of Israel who had fallen away from God the sons of a harlot. "Seed of the adulterer and the harlot," says the prophet Isaiah (Is 57:3).

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In the prophet Hosea (Hos 2:4), the prophet portrays the people as an adulterous wife who has fallen away from her husband: "I will not have mercy on her children, Israel, for they are children of fornication."

The Jews who argue with the Lord begin to understand that the Lord is pointing to these prophetic expressions. He reproaches them because they have fallen away from God.

As such, they are "sons of those who killed the prophets," and they "fill up the measure of their fathers" (Mt 23:31-32).

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Passages read together with this verse.

The original text

Greek text, 20 words with lemma, transliteration and Strong’s number. Tap to expand.

  1. ὑμεῖς
    hymeis
    you
    G4771 · σύ
  2. ποιεῖτε
    poieite
    I do
    G4160 · ποιέω
  3. τὰ
    ta
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  4. ἔργα
    erga
    work
    G2041 · ἔργον
  5. τοῦ
    tou
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  6. πατρὸς
    patros
    father
    G3962 · πατήρ
  7. ὑμῶν
    hymōn
    you
    G4771 · σύ
  8. Εἶπαν
    eipan
    to say
    G2036 · ἔπω, ἐρῶ, εἶπον
  9. οὖν
    oun
    therefore
    G3767 · οὖν
  10. αὐτῷ
    autō
    he
    G846 · αὐτός
  11. Ἡμεῖς
    hēmeis
    I
    G1473 · ἐγώ
  12. ἐκ
    ek
    from out
    G1537 · ἐκ
  13. πορνείας
    porneias
    fornication
    G4202 · πορνεία
  14. οὐ
    ou
    no
    G3756 · οὐ
  15. γεγεννήμεθα
    gegennēmetha
    I beget
    G1080 · γεννάω
  16. ἕνα
    hena
    one
    G1520 · εἷς
  17. Πατέρα
    patera
    father
    G3962 · πατήρ
  18. ἔχομεν
    echomen
    I have
    G2192 · ἔχω
  19. τὸν
    ton
    the
    G3588 · ὁ
  20. Θεόν
    theon
    God
    G2316 · θεός